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Re:Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'comple... by petilon on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:12AM (#48660244)
Why wouldn't you listen to a company on why their product solves the problem you're having?
Re:Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'comple... by tantalor on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:44AM (#48660755)
Since you're not picking up on a social subtext, "we should not listen to them" here means "don't be influenced by them" or "don't take their words as granted". In other words, we should be skeptical, not literally shut them out.
Re:Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'comple... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:57AM (#48660973)
> we should be skeptical, not literally shut them out

To be fair, this isn’t obvious from the top comment. Another comment literally argues for shutting them out [1].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48660630

Re:Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'comple... by simianwords on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @11:31AM (#48661474)
I see an interesting schism in the discussion - there are two camps here.

One is normative: listen to tech CEO's if you want to predict what will happen.

Another is positive: let CEO's tell you what ought to happen.

What happened here was the original commenter talked about listening to Reid for normative reason but the conversation got derailed into ignoring CEO's for positive statements.

This is something I see often where one talks about what would happen but people barge in to signal their ethics and morals instead.

Re:Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'comple... by buellerbueller on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:13AM (#48660255)
Companies lie.
Re:Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'comple... by petilon on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:15AM (#48660284)
Yes, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't listen to them. You listen to them and you evaluate their claims.
Re:Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'comple... by __alexs on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:35AM (#48660630)
To be truly impartial I don't think you should even evaluate their claims directly. This allows them to focus the comparison on things they care about, not the things you care about. Instead you should decide what problems you need solving, and evaluate solutions to those problems against your own rubric.
Re:Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'comple... by bckr on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @11:22AM (#48661352)
“Listen” is being used in a non-literal way here, with the meaning “to accept as true”.
Re:Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'comple... by buellerbueller on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:25AM (#48660471)
It seems to me that the original poster meant "listen" in the sense of "believe," not "listen" in the sense of "hear."
Re:Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'comple... by tripledry on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @01:23PM (#48663024)
You are correct, I simply mean we should keep in mind that they are also selling something.

If you ask an AWS consultant what the best solution for your problem is, don't be surprised if the answer is AWS.

Re:Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'comple... by peterspath on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:29AM (#48660538)
Humans lie
Re:Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'comple... by buellerbueller on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:31AM (#48660561)
Companies exist to influence others.
Re:Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'comple... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:37AM (#48660656)
What do you think anyone talking to the press or commenting on social media is up to?
Re:Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'comple... by buellerbueller on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @11:30AM (#48661450)
Every company exists to get money; it is literally their lifeblood.

Not every human on social media or talking to the press is trying to influence others in a survival situation. Go touch grass.

Re:Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'comple... by peterspath on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @01:07PM (#48662819)
Companies are organisations of people that have a common goal.

Yes to make money so they can provide a roof and food for their families.

But also other goals. To invent. To create. To provide goods and services.

People lie.

Re:Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'comple... by rsynnott on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @04:53PM (#48665498)
So, the multinational company is probably better at lying than the average person is at discerning lies.

There’s an argument that the best approach is to totally ignore what the vendor says and listen to trusted experts instead. If you’re buying a car, say, you’re probably not listening to what car manufacturers say. Or, at least, you shouldn’t; you will be mislead. If you happen to be an expert on cars it might be no harm, but otherwise probably best ignore them.