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Re:Steam Machine by littlecranky67 on Monday June 22, 2026 @03:57PM (#48635236)
Well, and you pay 120$/year for the privilege to play games online on that PS5. That is one of the reasons SONY can subsidize the PS5 unit price and sell under cost. Valve is not in that position, because people would buy it as office PC replacement.
Re:Steam Machine by balls187 on Monday June 22, 2026 @04:20PM (#48635564)
Valve very much is in the position to subsidize the costs; they charge 30% royalty per game sold.

Valve often boasts that they have a very high Rev / Employee number.

Re:Steam Machine by ncallaway on Monday June 22, 2026 @08:05PM (#48638323)
> Valve very much is in the position to subsidize the costs;

They're not, because they don't lock down the hardware to only Steam.

If they subsidized the cost, people could just buy them as general purpose computers and not buy steam games on them.

Valve would only be in a position to subsidize the hardware if they locked the hardware down to just the Steam store.

Re:Steam Machine by Forgeties79 on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @05:00PM (#48665576)
Let’s be real here. If you aren’t going to use it with SteamOS you’re in a very, very small group.
Re:Steam Machine by ncallaway on Friday June 26, 2026 @05:32PM (#48692252)
That’s true when they’re selling it at cost.

If they’re selling it below cost, that could very quickly stop being true.

Re:Steam Machine by IshKebab on Monday June 22, 2026 @05:13PM (#48636286)
Yeah but then people would buy them for non-gaming use. Remember the PS2 supercomputers?
Re:Steam Machine by Telaneo on Monday June 22, 2026 @08:52PM (#48638696)
Re:Steam Machine by IshKebab on Tuesday June 23, 2026 @02:29AM (#48641142)
From that very page...

> The National Center for Supercomputing Applications had already built a cluster based on the PlayStation 2.

Re:Steam Machine by Telaneo on Tuesday June 23, 2026 @10:35AM (#48645629)
I haven't heard of any others, and your comment said 'supercomputers'.

Not to mention that the NSCA was just throwing spaghetti at the wall to see if it would prove useful when it came to the PS2,[0] and their setup never worked reliably.[1] The PS3 had several supercomputers made independently.[1][2][3]

[0] https://www.ncsa.illinois.edu/2003/05/27/playing-the-superco...

[1] https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/ps3-supercompu...

[2] https://web.uri.edu/gravity/ps3/

[3] https://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/701

Re:Steam Machine by s3krit on Tuesday June 23, 2026 @10:27AM (#48645499)
and the fears that Saddam Hussein was going to buy a bunch of PS2s because the cpu was SO POWERFUL they would be used for missile guidance systems or something
Re:Steam Machine by quacker on Monday June 22, 2026 @04:49PM (#48635981)
This more a dig at Sony than a reason Valve can’t also sell their hardware as a loss leader. They are massively profitable from their cut of Steam sales anyway. And part of PS Plus is a catalog of games and monthly games, similar to Gamepass. Valve could easily have a profitable subscription model for games or services if they wanted to.
Re:Steam Machine by hbn on Monday June 22, 2026 @04:54PM (#48636048)
Also a PS5 only runs PS5 games which Sony gets a cut of whenever you purchase one.

With this thing you could buy it and then install your favorite Linux distro on it and never give Valve another dime. If they ate the cost, businesses would buy them up as the best value for the compute and they're not buying Steam games.

Re:Steam Machine by viktorcode on Monday June 22, 2026 @05:13PM (#48636292)
> That is one of the reasons SONY can subsidize the PS5 unit price and sell under cost.

PS5 hardware sales started generating profit in the first year. Only for the first few month the sales were "subsidised".

Re:Steam Machine by littlecranky67 on Monday June 22, 2026 @05:53PM (#48636766)
> Only for the first few month

Yes, but we are in the unique situation that we saw actually increasing prices for RAM and storage over time due to AI craze. You (or me) have no idea what Sony's markup on consoles is right now.

Re:Steam Machine by MYEUHD on Monday June 22, 2026 @11:01PM (#48639681)
Playstation plus essential is $80 per year
Re:Steam Machine by littlecranky67 on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @04:41AM (#48656948)
For how long? What guarantee do you have that price will be the same in 2 years? Especially since Sony just changed the pricing.
Re:Steam Machine by tiahura on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @08:14AM (#48658554)
If you can’t handle $80/yr, why are you buying an overpriced steam box?
Re:Steam Machine by MYEUHD on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @01:29PM (#48663104)
I don't like that online play is gated behind a subscription. But you mentioned the wrong price and I was simply pointing that out.
Re:Steam Machine by WithinReason on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @12:10PM (#48662015)
Why would anyone buy a $1000 office PC when you can buy a $300 office PC?