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Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by l23k4 on Friday June 12, 2026 @03:32AM (#48500997)
Why would a 16 year old not use their own card?
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by distances on Friday June 12, 2026 @03:51AM (#48501131)
Would they be given their own credit card, or would it be under the parents? Over here minors can't enter into debt contracts like credit cards, so it'd be a direct debit until they are adults.
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by l23k4 on Friday June 12, 2026 @03:56AM (#48501173)
I don't think the type of the card really matters as long as the limits are reasonable.

> Over here minors can't enter into debt contracts like credit cards

In basically all of the western world minors can enter into debt contracts, but are generally not seen as particularly creditworthy.

Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by distances on Friday June 12, 2026 @04:11AM (#48501292)
> In basically all of the western world minors can enter into debt contracts, but are generally not seen as particularly creditworthy.

No, that's not legally permitted in many places. I was under impression that minors can't enter into debt contracts anywhere in EU, but that, too, was an incorrect assumption.

https://fra.europa.eu/en/publication/2017/mapping-minimum-ag...

I grew up in one of these "not under 18 even with parental consent" countries, so that coloured my view of the matter.

Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by inigyou on Friday June 12, 2026 @10:34AM (#48504715)
I was under the impression they could do it but there was a high chance of a debt like this being unenforceable, so companies don't want to. Or maybe that's another way of saying they can have debts but not debt contracts.
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by fauigerzigerk on Friday June 12, 2026 @04:32AM (#48501460)
>In basically all of the western world minors can enter into debt contracts, but are generally not seen as particularly creditworthy.

Minors can't get a credit card in the UK. In fact, it's one of the government approved age verification methods for that exact reason.

Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by OJFord on Friday June 12, 2026 @08:05AM (#48503071)
I think you mean debit card? In the UK at least you need to be 18 to agree to agree to a direct debit too. Rarely comes up since they're mostly for bills, but e.g. for a phone/SIM on contract it has to be in a parent's name for that reason.
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by vel0city on Friday June 12, 2026 @08:11AM (#48503127)
The minor wouldn't be the actual person entering a debt contract here, the parents are agreeing to be responsible for the debt. The minor is only an authorized cardholder.

Think business accounts. The name on the card might be some agent of the company but they're not directly responsible for paying the debt. The business is responsible for the debt.

Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by well_ackshually on Friday June 12, 2026 @03:50AM (#48501117)
Because 16 years old do not have a card with no spending limits, and with very low online spending limits. Most of those cards are even just for withdrawing
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by TheDong on Friday June 12, 2026 @04:07AM (#48501262)
Spending limits don't particularly matter here.

AWS doesn't check if your credit card will be able to handle a $5k charge before letting you rack that up, and in fact AWS doesn't support setting any spending limit.

You just have to put in any valid credit card at all when you sign up, use AWS, and at the end of the month you'll have a bill. At no point does your credit card limit or a spending limit enter into things.

Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by michaelmrose on Friday June 12, 2026 @04:18AM (#48501347)
And again kids don't have credit cards
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by yeputons on Friday June 12, 2026 @05:48AM (#48501963)
I got mine when I was 12, IIRC. Not a credit, of course, it was a debit card, but not all countries bother to differentiate between the two, it was just a “bank card”. And I believe it had a credit card BIN because all local banks did that to get more in processing fees.
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by michaelmrose on Saturday June 13, 2026 @04:02AM (#48514687)
I do not specifically believe you can run up a $6000 bill on AWS with a kids card. It beggars belief as does the idea that this is a literal rather than mental child
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by l23k4 on Friday June 12, 2026 @05:32AM (#48501870)
AWS accepts debit cards.
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by lxgr on Friday June 12, 2026 @08:41AM (#48503396)
Nobody has a card without spending limits.
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by saidnooneever on Friday June 12, 2026 @10:13AM (#48504395)
there are plenty of cards on the interwebz to use. ppl give em away like candies
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by efreak on Friday June 12, 2026 @08:33PM (#48510986)
I'm reminded of the bot @needadebitcard on Twitter 10(?) years ago, that reposted pictures of people's cards that they posted on Twitter for the public to see.
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by saidnooneever on Saturday June 13, 2026 @03:39AM (#48514524)
its really easy to use social media bots scrapers and AI img extraction etc. dont even need tons of resources. But i was mostly talking about forums and carders which has never really stopped being a thing.
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by victorbjorklund on Friday June 12, 2026 @05:52PM (#48509859)
Either they have their own card or gets to borrow a parents. Doesn’t make a difference in this situation.