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Re:I'm building a parallel internet, and it's called The Thi... by wmf on Monday June 08, 2026 @04:46PM (#48451761)
I tune out at this "what Steve Jobs would have done" talk. A thing needs to stand on its own without borrowing Steve Jobs (or Jeff Dean as I saw someone do the other day).
Re:I'm building a parallel internet, and it's called The Thi... by HerbManic on Monday June 08, 2026 @07:17PM (#48453810)
Pretty much, we don't know what Steve would have done and even if we did, there is no guarantee that it was a good idea. When he had hits, it was brilliant but there were many stinkers as well.

I suspect if Steve was doing a new internet it would be a walled garden like the App store, so a worse internet that favors him. As Woz said, Jobs just wanted to have a business and be rich, didn't really matter what the business was. Any illusion of a greater good was always a calculated bet in getting more users.

Job's did some great things for the industry, I also call him the architect of the locked down digital jails we are inhabiting. But we shouldn't put him up as some perfect beacon of the industry.

Re:I'm building a parallel internet, and it's called The Thi... by initramfs on Monday June 08, 2026 @05:05PM (#48452057)
I get that, but a lot of design decisions today are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_by_committee

For something so complex like a PC or desktop experience, having a bunch of oppositional goals (like ad pop ups) do not serve the user well enough. Often times a committee releases a product, but there is no real consensus or accessibility in mind.

Re:I'm building a parallel internet, and it's called The Thi... by wmf on Monday June 08, 2026 @05:21PM (#48452303)
That sounds like a false dichotomy. You want opinionated software? Great, so do I. Design the software, own your decisions yourself, and explain your thinking without shortcuts.
Re:I'm building a parallel internet, and it's called The Thi... by cyanydeez on Monday June 08, 2026 @05:42PM (#48452610)
Also, steve jobs made utterly stupid decisions in a lot of areas. If you're trying to revolutionize something, try not to use someone who was clearly flawed in many aspects. Otherwise it sounds like you're just building a facade.
Re:I'm building a parallel internet, and it's called The Thi... by initramfs on Monday June 08, 2026 @05:58PM (#48452843)
Yes, and Seward also made a Folly. I suppose he missed out on some things, but his success rate at predicting features that are now standard was higher than most in that era.
Re:I'm building a parallel internet, and it's called The Thi... by wombat-man on Monday June 08, 2026 @05:58PM (#48452854)
Yeah, reading his biography was interesting. He had the problem of tech not quite being where he wanted it to be over and over. But eventually things really hit.
Re:I'm building a parallel internet, and it's called The Thi... by thwgrw on Monday June 08, 2026 @04:54PM (#48451864)
I mean can't get a more incestous tech cliche! There is a world out there too folks.
Re:I'm building a parallel internet, and it's called The Thi... by bigyabai on Monday June 08, 2026 @05:29PM (#48452403)
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Re:I'm building a parallel internet, and it's called The Thi... by initramfs on Monday June 08, 2026 @05:34PM (#48452475)
You're listening to WWSJD, the Los Altos FM station where Apple pilgrims tune in to the station that Steve Jobs did!