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Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by ceejayoz on Friday June 05, 2026 @04:12PM (#48417552)
> The brine came from the ocean.

Sure, and enriched uranium comes from the ground, but that doesn't mean it's safe to dump it back in after the enrichment process!

> So just dilute it back to close to ambient salinity using municipal waste water…

Wouldn't it generally be easier to process that municipal waste water, as is already fairly common?

Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by SoftTalker on Friday June 05, 2026 @04:13PM (#48417563)
The analogy would be if you "un-enrich" it. Then it's safe. Or at least no worse than when you took it out of the ground.
Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by ceejayoz on Friday June 05, 2026 @04:14PM (#48417577)
> The analogy would be if you "un-enrich" it.

But you're doing that with the same water you're trying to make in the first place!

Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by SoftTalker on Friday June 05, 2026 @04:25PM (#48417724)
You could just dilute it using fresh seawater, if you used enough and (maybe) spread it over a wider area. The amount of water people need for drinking is a relative drop in the ocean.
Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by ceejayoz on Friday June 05, 2026 @04:34PM (#48417844)
Brine doesn't necessarily behave the way you imagine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brinicle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brine_pool

Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by jaggederest on Friday June 05, 2026 @04:52PM (#48418117)
Blue Planet video of a brinicle, content warning for kind of horrifying death of sea creatures: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAupJzH31tc
Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by ianthehenry on Saturday June 06, 2026 @12:10AM (#48421301)
And a Blue Planet II video of a brine pool, stronger content warning for much more horrifying death: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwuVpNYrKPY
Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by threwrfaway on Friday June 05, 2026 @06:00PM (#48418928)
You can dilute the brine in a facility before disposing.
Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by wlesieutre on Friday June 05, 2026 @07:27PM (#48419704)
With fresh water, we’ll get it from desalinization! Hey wait a second…
Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by threwrfaway on Friday June 05, 2026 @10:07PM (#48420698)
Sarcasm aside, your comment actually works: you can use the freshwater from desalination!

Just wait for the saltwater to come back around in the sewer.

Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by wlesieutre on Friday June 05, 2026 @11:12PM (#48421022)
Globally about 70% of freshwater is used for agriculture so less than a third of it will come back around, if it's exclusively for residential/commercial use you might do better but overall not a strategy that balances out
Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by threwrfaway on Saturday June 06, 2026 @08:22AM (#48424322)
70% of desalinated water wont ever go to agriculture because its too expensive to use for corn. Only very high value crops need apply.

But, so what? 30% sewage is still a strong dilluant... especially when mixed with more seawater

Im shocked how many people cannot grasp that you can dilute brine's salinity arbitrarily close to seawater's with energetically cheap pumps.

Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by ceejayoz on Friday June 05, 2026 @06:50PM (#48419356)
Go on. With what?
Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by asdff on Friday June 05, 2026 @08:49PM (#48420252)
Seems like you could just dilute it with seawater at like 100:1 ratio and it would be negligible done offshore. We already dump our shit 5 miles out.
Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by threwrfaway on Friday June 05, 2026 @10:01PM (#48420649)
100:1 is overkill and energetically very wasteful. It's a fairly straightforward chemical engineering problem.
Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by pasquinelli on Friday June 05, 2026 @08:54PM (#48420286)
gasoline
Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by threwrfaway on Friday June 05, 2026 @09:54PM (#48420613)
...sea water. You take 10 units of sea water for every unit processed and you'll get a slight increase in salinity.

A phase diagram tells you exactly how far you need to go.

You know this makes more thermodynamic sense than carbon capture, right?

Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by Joker_vD on Friday June 05, 2026 @05:54PM (#48418864)
> Sure, and enriched uranium comes from the ground

Uranium can also come from the ocean water (there is, apparently, quite a lot of it in there, relatively speaking). Japan experimented with the technology in the nineties, but it really was much cheaper to just mine it from the ground, so they abandoned it.

Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by numpad0 on Friday June 05, 2026 @06:56PM (#48419406)
Japan is also barred from doing own enrichment, being a non-nuclear state. Though, there nevertheless is a dormant set of requisite facilities.
Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by redsocksfan45 on Friday June 05, 2026 @10:48PM (#48420926)
You're wrong. Japan does do their own enrichment, 150k SWUs at Rokkasho with plans to bring that up to 500k SWUs a year soon. If they chose to make.bombs instead of fuel, they could make dozens a year.
Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by numpad0 on Saturday June 06, 2026 @03:32AM (#48422389)
That's the dormant plant. Rokkasho-mura plant is officially incomplete for decades, doing tests and upgrades without actual production.

If you think otherwise and you're not wrong, and I think you ARE not mistaken since this isn't the first time someone other than myself mentioned it here, that means they're making bombs because we in Japanese public aren't told about it. There has only been just some routine commentaries from local mayors at most.

Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by yorwba on Saturday June 06, 2026 @04:46AM (#48422813)
I think you might be confusing the Rokkasho Reprocessing Plant (not yet operational, intended for plutonium extraction from spent fuel) and the Rokkasho Uranium Enrichment plant, which has been running at 75 tSWU/year (I think that should be kSWU or tSW) since 2023-08-24 https://www.jnfl.co.jp/ja/business/about/uran/daily/enrichme... 112.5 tSWU/year since 2025-06-26 https://www.jnfl.co.jp/ja/business/about/uran/daily/enrichme... and 150 tSWU/year since 2025-11-20 https://www.jnfl.co.jp/ja/business/about/uran/daily/enrichme...

It's a bit weird though that they have a graph of tons of uranium hexafluoride shipped that shows the last shipment in 2018 and nothing since then.

Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by pfdietz on Saturday June 06, 2026 @10:23PM (#48431141)
They also have a large stockpile of reactor grade plutonium. Not the best material for bombs, but workable.
Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by somenameforme on Saturday June 06, 2026 @02:53AM (#48422143)
It's about 3 parts per billion. Uranium is about $85/pound, so you'd need to be able to completely process/extract about 40 million gallons of saltwater for $85 to break even. The real cost there is orders of magnitude higher. It's one reason the claim about the Earth having vast amounts of uranium is quite disingenuous. The amount of cost efficient accessible uranium is only enough to last ~1 century at current consumption rates. If nuclear energy scaled up significantly, we'd run out in a matter of decades if not less, or we send the price of uranium skyrocketing and the price arguments would need to be significantly adjusted.
Re:New method turns ocean water into drinking water, without... by turkeyboi on Friday June 05, 2026 @10:42PM (#48420894)
Enriched uranium is perfectly safe to dump but it would be stupid to do so. Fission products are nasty but uranium itself is not, comparatively.