Re:Scientists believe ibogaine can help veterans overcome PTSD
by vasco on Sunday May 17, 2026 @10:55AM
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Vets kill themselves a lot so I guess it's easier to propose crazier stuff because the alternative is very bad.
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Re:Scientists believe ibogaine can help veterans overcome PTSD
by trio8453 on Sunday May 17, 2026 @11:56AM
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Veterans also make it easier to get wider political support for legalizing the treatment.
Re:Scientists believe ibogaine can help veterans overcome PTSD
by AndrewKemendo on Sunday May 17, 2026 @12:21PM
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Though notably never anything really crazy like “let’s stop doing war”
Re:Scientists believe ibogaine can help veterans overcome PTSD
by JCTheDenthog on Sunday May 17, 2026 @12:42PM
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I mean, that does sound pretty crazy. Specific wars are often ill-advised or largely pointless, but "stop doing war" presupposes that all other countries in the world will also "stop doing war", otherwise what you're suggesting is just unilateral surrender under the guise of stopping war.
Re:Scientists believe ibogaine can help veterans overcome PTSD
by constantius on Sunday May 17, 2026 @02:50PM
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You're strawmanning I think.
My interpretation of the parent comment is: Americans should stop aggressing other countries, slaughtering the population, and then publishing scientific breakthroughs on treating ptsd among the killers.
I'd say the comment says nothing about wars of survival, which is not what veterans have ptsd for. No one is 'doing war' at America.
Re:Scientists believe ibogaine can help veterans overcome PTSD
by hunterpayne on Sunday May 17, 2026 @03:00PM
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Game theory and history say otherwise. If you want to be a fool, have at it. Just don't expect the rest of us to go along or respect you because of it.
Re:Scientists believe ibogaine can help veterans overcome PTSD
by westmeal on Sunday May 17, 2026 @03:28PM
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Just because it used to happen doesn't mean it should continue. It will be death of all of us collectively.
Re:Scientists believe ibogaine can help veterans overcome PTSD
by AndrewKemendo on Sunday May 17, 2026 @03:38PM
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But didn’t you know: game theory!!!!
Nash equilibrium is the religion for millennials who didn’t get sucked into the boomer/gen-x Ayn Rand bullshit
Re:Scientists believe ibogaine can help veterans overcome PTSD
by westmeal on Monday May 18, 2026 @01:29PM
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God... Ayn Rand sucks so hard.
Re:Scientists believe ibogaine can help veterans overcome PTSD
by throwaway27448 on Sunday May 17, 2026 @06:06PM
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States are not rational actors. Game theory does not apply to them.
Re:Scientists believe ibogaine can help veterans overcome PTSD
by AndrewKemendo on Sunday May 17, 2026 @01:35PM
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Hey if that’s the world you wanna live in then continue to do what you’re doing
Re:Scientists believe ibogaine can help veterans overcome PTSD
by RobotToaster on Sunday May 17, 2026 @05:37PM
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Stopping doing wars doesn't mean not having a military capable of wars. It means not starting them. The US hasn't been involved in justified military action since the 40s.
Re:Scientists believe ibogaine can help veterans overcome PTSD
by throwaway27448 on Sunday May 17, 2026 @06:05PM
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> presupposes that all other countries in the world will also "stop doing war"
No it doesn't. But making efforts to stop it ourselves is necessary to achieve that. Same reason it's worth doing nuclear disarmament: because not disarming guarantees nuclear war eventually.