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Re:California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gaso... by daedrdev on Thursday May 07, 2026 @01:41PM (#48052352)
CA’s requirement that it gets its own blend of gas is combined with how its openly hostile towards its ever decreasing refineries and that it is impossible for a new refinery to ever open makes it’s supplies absurdly limited
Re:California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gaso... by doug_durham on Thursday May 07, 2026 @01:44PM (#48052391)
People in LA need to breathe during the summer time. So yes we demand a blend that protects our residents. And the refiners are choosing to close refineries. They are not being compelled.
Re:California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gaso... by daedrdev on Thursday May 07, 2026 @01:50PM (#48052479)
They are being strangled, it’s their choice to tap out is how I would put it.

The improvement in air quality is due to the clean air act, catalytic converters, and the shuttering of industry, the gas blend plays a minor part. Even then, with gas so much higher it will materially make peoples lives worse, at some point society would be better off getting rid of the blend.

Re:California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gaso... by ceejayoz on Thursday May 07, 2026 @01:46PM (#48052416)
Yeah, I remember flying into LAX in the late 80s and early 90s. Smog so thick it looked like a physical obstacle.

Whatever they're doing seems to be working nicely.

Re:California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gaso... by johnvanommen on Thursday May 07, 2026 @02:19PM (#48052870)
Car emissions are far lower now. I lived in CA when the air was grey in July.

That ended a long time ago. A modern Honda generates something like 1% as much pollution as a car from the eighties.

Re:California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gaso... by johnvanommen on Thursday May 07, 2026 @02:17PM (#48052841)
> CA’s requirement that it gets its own blend of gas is combined with how its openly hostile towards its ever decreasing refineries and that it is impossible for a new refinery to ever open makes it’s supplies absurdly limited

A big one is a lack of pipelines.

As I understand it, California sits on so much oil, nobody has built a pipeline.

Building an energy pipeline in California is like bringing sand to the beach. The energy is already there.

Re:California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gaso... by flumpmaster on Thursday May 07, 2026 @02:37PM (#48053090)
There are plenty of crude oil and refined product pipelines in California.

For example crude oil is produced mid state in the San Joaquin valley and pumped by pipeline to the Bay Area and LA refineries.

Refined product from LA is delivered by pipeline from LA refineries as far east as Phoenix and up to Las Vegas.

Building new pipelines in California though is…challenging.

Re:California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gaso... by bsimpson on Thursday May 07, 2026 @01:46PM (#48052428)
It's bonkers that some of the most expensive gas you'll ever buy is in SF, and Martinez is right there. You could bike there, if they allowed bikes on the bridge.
Re:California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gaso... by wiredfool on Thursday May 07, 2026 @02:50PM (#48053250)
I paid the equivalent of $12.50 a gallon for diesel at the peak price a month or so ago.
Re:California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gaso... by tencentshill on Thursday May 07, 2026 @01:48PM (#48052451)
California learned that lesson the hard way. Have you been in the city during a bad smog day?
Re:California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gaso... by guyzero on Thursday May 07, 2026 @01:44PM (#48052383)
Everyone loves gas and hates refineries. It's a tough choice.
Re:California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gaso... by tzs on Thursday May 07, 2026 @08:00PM (#48056721)
There has been no major refineries opened in the US since 1977. There have been a handful of small refineries in the 2010s and early 2020s in California, North Dakota, and Texas.

How do you know California's lack of new refineries is due to California hostility rather than being due to whatever caused the same lack in every other state?