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Re:If more than 50% press blue, everyone survives. Red press... by swed420 on Sunday April 26, 2026 @04:08PM (#47913716)
Yes, the selfish-minded would end up with more selfish-minded people, and they'd be confused why their "low trust society" became even more low trust overnight.
Re:If more than 50% press blue, everyone survives. Red press... by owenpalmer on Sunday April 26, 2026 @04:17PM (#47913837)
Perhaps red is selfish, but blue is most certainly foolish.
Re:If more than 50% press blue, everyone survives. Red press... by swed420 on Sunday April 26, 2026 @04:20PM (#47913884)
Or blue doesn't want to live in the world where only selfish/cynical people remain.
Re:If more than 50% press blue, everyone survives. Red press... by card_zero on Sunday April 26, 2026 @09:14PM (#47916682)
Confusingly, though, as you are of course a nice person, if you vote red you'd demonstrate that some red voters are nice, and then the choice is less severe. Then voting red is like "I embrace humanity, warts and all", while voting blue is like "I cannot tolerate sharing the planet with anyone even slightly impure".
Re:If more than 50% press blue, everyone survives. Red press... by swed420 on Monday April 27, 2026 @10:38AM (#47922230)
It has some conflicting circular dependencies in assumptions which is why the thought experiment is kind of dumb overall.
Re:If more than 50% press blue, everyone survives. Red press... by selfhoster1312 on Sunday April 26, 2026 @05:32PM (#47914789)
I would personally assert it's foolish to pretend a species can survive without empathy and mutual aid. That's certainly not how humanity (or most, if not all, species) developed so far: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_Aid:_A_Factor_of_Evolut...
Re:If more than 50% press blue, everyone survives. Red press... by rayiner on Sunday April 26, 2026 @08:04PM (#47916214)
"Empathy" isn't a binary in this context. You can exercise empathy and aid your community by making sure everyone you know votes red. That's the kind of cooperation that humans have evolved with. What you're talking about is undifferentiated, universal empathy, where someone would be willing to risk the lives of those close to them for a greater chance to help those who are outside their immediate reach to persuade.

I suspect if you played this game, lots of tight-knit, high-cooperation groups would undertake coordinated campaigns to ensure the survival of their members by ensuring everyone votes red.

Re:If more than 50% press blue, everyone survives. Red press... by selfhoster1312 on Monday April 27, 2026 @12:03PM (#47923364)
Well that's exactly how empathy plays out in real life. It's not an abstract feeling. People often put their lives at stake for others, which is something game theorists can't really appreciate.