This. We need to stop calling this “age verification.” You are uploading your full ID. Not your age.

Where does it say a "full ID" must be uploaded?

how do you validate citizenship and authenticity without a full ID?

Where does it say citizenship must be validated?

A privacy preserving cryptographic digital ID that supports zero knowledge proofs.

...in a world where any legislator ever consulted with cryptography and security engineers on this sort of thing.

What we are going to get is people printing fake IDs on paper and holding them up to a camera.

I believe you can get a valid US state ID without being a citizen. In regards to this bill, IMHO, they are looking only to verify age.

There is no other technology to do age verification at scale.

Apple, Google and such will contract out this age verification to a third-party which will ask you to upload your ID and a 3D face captcha, which the third party will delete within 15 days, but somehow magically still make it into an unfortunate, unavoidable data leak a couple of years later.

I think you are assuming what their definition of "verify" is going to be, but it's not actually written in the text of the bill, so we don't know. Similar laws in some states only asked the OS to collect the age, it specifically doesn't say that the information must ever be accurate, stored or used for anything.

Collecting the age will be done via a photo of a legal US state ID. We can take bets but, as the article points out, only two vendors can do this and this is how they do it.

> Collecting the age will be done via a photo of a legal US state ID

Do you have a source for this claim?

At this point not assuming malice is probably naïveté, but I respect your optimism

Check out the two vendors of mobile solutions, they want a photo of your state ID. Here's Persona's page about it.

https://withpersona.com/blog/what-is-drivers-license-verific...

My understanding is that if you are under 18, you can get away with uploading a selfie.

That doesn't answer my question though, sorry.

Maybe you mean where in bill does it say a US photo ID is required.

I think your are correct, I don't believe such a requirement exists in the bill itself and that's a big part of the article. Because the law doesn't require this, there's a very real risk that people won't realize that, if you are an adult, you will be required to upload a photo of your state ID. Prople might support the bill and only realize what it means in practical terms once it is too late and it has become law.

It isn't clear to me if requiring photo ID is a practical requirement or a decision the two incumbent vendors have made for their own reasons. My guess is that it is the cheapest and easiest solution.

Yeah this is the whole point. It’s not (currently) possible to verify your age without at least revealing your identity.

You can talk about birthday hash or whatever, I don’t see it happening