It's very hard to imagine nuclear weapons being used in this conflict.

It was hard to imaigne the United States sticking their nose in the middle east again

It was hard to imagine America kidnapping a head of state, the president of Venezuela

It was very hard to imagine Amercia threatening annexation of Canada and Greenland

Your difficult to imagine world is closer to reality than I think either of us would like

Agree with the general point, but the second example shouldn’t have been that hard to imagine. We’ve done it before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Pana...

And is true about the nukes

Is it? Israel is a rogue state at this point, and it has openly stated that were the US to withdraw, they would use "any means necessary".

They seem to not be satisfied by causing global economic harm, they want nuclear annihilation as well.

If they do, they will be exterminated.

There is no timeline where Israel comes out victorious if they start using nuclear weapons.

What quote are you referring to?

yeah, I think this will escalate further and US might drop a tactical one on some island (military but not heavily inhabited) as a show of power. I don't see a way back out otherwise for US.

The US doesn't need to show power. Using nukes is all downside.

Normally yes, but this is the Suez canal moment for US. I think countries stopped caring about US especially in the last year and starting reducing dependence on US economically and politically. So, the unpredictable Trump may try to do something dramatic. China will be the biggest winner of this all.

The world sentiment is to deintegrate with the US - something Trump campaigned on - and so he is going to do something dramatic? And that dramatic thing is to use nuclear weapons?

Just no. Stop this.

What would that gain?

I think they will settle that Iran won’t reuse whatever they have of that nuclear fuel if the U.S drops the nukes on the Iranian nuclear sites. Iran may also think twice before rejecting a deal in which they agree to not acquire a nuclear weapon.