If they trust the devs why would they not trust them to not yolo deploy new versions?

because a company worthy of trust doesn't yolo their versions. a company that does yolo versions is not trustworthy.

Because it might not be the developers doing the deploying, but a malicious actor?

> I think you know what they’re questioning and why.

No, not really. And I disagree with the premise, "They must be a target for the various hacking groups out there."

How would you even hack them? I'm a developer too; how would you hack me?

Options range from carefully targeted phishing or social engineering attacks to poor opsec and a five dollar wrench.

> a five dollar wrench.

I'm not even going to respond to this ridiculousness.

I still don't know why anyone thinks that, among all developers in the world, a little indie Mac developer is getting targeted specifically.

Some targets are more valuable than others. A firewall product has obvious security value. The fact that it requires high privilege is another reason.

I have the same thoughts about other Mac apps. e.g. iTerm2 - cause they "see" so much sensitive data.

> I have the same thoughts about other Mac apps. e.g. iTerm2

You need to take a chill pill.

Yeah just yolo install whatever, it’s not like applications or libraries such as axios which have a decade of trusted history would all of a sudden become malicious and do nasty things to developer machines, just chill, everything’s fine.

> Yeah just yolo install whatever

That's not even remotely what I said.

> it’s not like applications or libraries such as axios

iTerm doesn't use NPM. Little Snitch doesn't use NPM. I don't use NPM.

So it’s npms fault and if npm didnt exist, no developers would ever get compromised?

You’re an incompetent idiot, and a risk to your employer.

WTF? This is not an acceptable comment on HN, no matter who or what you're replying to. This style of commenting is not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

The same people who targeted the open source uncommercial library axios *last week*?

Access to little snitch would be worth millions to the right party.

>> I still don't know why anyone thinks that, among all developers in the world, a little indie Mac developer is getting targeted specifically.

> The same people who targeted the open source uncommercial library axios last week?

axios is an NPM package. Little Snitch doesn't use NPM. Thus, these people must be pretty damn incompetent if they were trying to target Little Snitch.

> Access to little snitch would be worth millions to the right party.

This is a bold claim with no evidence. I don't think it's true.

Shell (and probably root) access to tens of thousands of development machines wouldn’t be worth millions to the right party?

> I'm not even going to respond to this ridiculousness.

Why is it ridiculous? If you have electronic access to something of value and broadcast that fact on the internet, you’re at risk of a physical attack. That’s not controversial? Companies make employees do training about this for a reason.

> If you have electronic access to something of value and broadcast that fact on the internet, you’re at risk of a physical attack. That’s not controversial? Companies make employees do training about this for a reason.

You're talking as if all all "value" and all "risk" is equal, when they're definitely not. You can't equate a megacorporation with a little indie developer. Nobody cares about the latter.

I am a software developer, and I broadcast that fact on the internet. But nobody is coming to Wisconsin to hit me on the head with a wrench. That's just a silly paranoid fantasy.

If anyone hits me on the head with a wrench, it would be not be a nation-state but rather a two-bit local mugger who has no idea who I am and just wants cash from my wallet. I live in a pretty safe area though.

Nobody that you know of.

?! The same way every other developer that has been hacked. You surely cannot be suggesting you're un-hackable. That seems ludicrously hubristic.

> The same way every other developer that has been hacked.

There's not one single way, so, no, you're just hand-waving here.

Just saying developers have been hacked. Underrated existence proof.

> Just saying developers have been hacked.

So are you going to have this same discussion in every HN submission that mentions any piece of software?

What software do you actually develop? You clearly don’t give a shit about your users and I want to make sure I’m not using your software .