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Re:Ah, peptides. where to begin? by elil17 on Tuesday April 07, 2026 @08:47AM (#47674478)
Is there any reason to think that freshly squeezed juice is chemically different from, for example, frozen juice concentrate?
Re:Ah, peptides. where to begin? by taco_emoji on Tuesday April 07, 2026 @10:53AM (#47676371)
From the Wikipedia page on orange juice:

> Commercial orange juice with a long shelf life is made by pasteurizing the juice and removing the oxygen from it. This removes much of the taste, necessitating the later addition of a flavor pack, generally made from orange products.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_juice

Re:Ah, peptides. where to begin? by elil17 on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @04:00AM (#47686879)
The same article goes into additional detail:

> Commercial squeezed orange juice is pasteurized and filtered before being evaporated under vacuum and heat. After removal of most of the water, this concentrate, about 65% sugar by weight, is then stored at about 10 °F (−12 °C). Essences, Vitamin C, and oils extracted during the vacuum concentration process may be added back to restore flavor and nutrition.

So essentially there are components that vaporize during processing. The make sure to condense the same components and add them back in so that the orange juice contains all the components of fresh orange juice.

Re:Ah, peptides. where to begin? by mapotofu on Tuesday April 07, 2026 @09:31AM (#47675119)
There is reason to think the differences are biotic vs. abiotic, between the two. Our digestive system is dependent on healthy microbiota. Pasteurization would be the difference here.
Re:Ah, peptides. where to begin? by reverius42 on Tuesday April 07, 2026 @05:33PM (#47681633)
So it's essentially the same argument as for raw milk, but at least it's less likely to make you sick (?).
Re:Ah, peptides. where to begin? by mapotofu on Tuesday April 07, 2026 @06:52PM (#47682377)
Raw milk is on the fringes of the same argument that whole foods play a more beneficial role in healthy gut microbiota and digestion, and that our current models focusing on nutrient composition are incomplete. It says that our measurements are off, and that there’s more to nutrition than composition alone. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11901572/
Re:Ah, peptides. where to begin? by nick3000 on Tuesday April 07, 2026 @09:26AM (#47675055)
yes it’s been frozen and concentrated..
Re:Ah, peptides. where to begin? by brokensegue on Tuesday April 07, 2026 @09:41AM (#47675253)
You can freeze and concentrate a substance without chemically altering it