News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:A forecast of the fair market value of SpaceX's businesses by tliptay on Thursday April 02, 2026 @01:52PM (#47617793)
Grok: lots of competitors & my 4th choice in LLM models.

Starship: zero competitors & potentially makes humans inter-planetary.

Seems crazy if investors put more value on Grok.

Re:A forecast of the fair market value of SpaceX's businesses by germinalphrase on Thursday April 02, 2026 @02:05PM (#47617988)
“potentially makes humans inter-planetary”

What is the realistic, non-science fiction appeal of this?

Re:A forecast of the fair market value of SpaceX's businesses by stouset on Thursday April 02, 2026 @02:31PM (#47618332)
I would wager minerals mining and tourism are probably the only meaningful revenue sources in our lifetimes.
Re:A forecast of the fair market value of SpaceX's businesses by ant6n on Thursday April 02, 2026 @03:11PM (#47618851)
Going to orbit is actually useful already, cf starlink
Re:A forecast of the fair market value of SpaceX's businesses by stouset on Thursday April 02, 2026 @03:57PM (#47619407)
Yeah, I meant in addition to what we’re already doing.

I do think that will reach diminishing returns at some point. Kessler syndrome is a real thing for long-term higher orbits.

Re:A forecast of the fair market value of SpaceX's businesses by dh2022 on Thursday April 02, 2026 @07:01PM (#47621311)
Tourism to Mars and back (this is the easiest interplanetary travel) means years confined in a space rocket just to circle around Mars and get back (it is not possible to land on Mars and get back). Not that appealing…
Re:A forecast of the fair market value of SpaceX's businesses by stouset on Thursday April 02, 2026 @08:43PM (#47622067)
I know the GP mentioned making humans interplanetary, but I mostly just interpreted this as “more spacefaring”. By tourism I really just meant something along the lines of orbiting hotels.
Re:A forecast of the fair market value of SpaceX's businesses by guzfip on Thursday April 02, 2026 @08:10PM (#47621871)
Don’t worry man, the LLM’s will invent FTL travel before 2030. Trust me.
Re:A forecast of the fair market value of SpaceX's businesses by compiler-guy on Thursday April 02, 2026 @01:58PM (#47617868)
These premises may or may not make sense, but the thing that matters is capturable revenue.

Humans being interplanetary would be an amazing technical tour de force. But relatively speaking, there isn’t much revenue there.

Re:A forecast of the fair market value of SpaceX's businesses by malfist on Thursday April 02, 2026 @02:37PM (#47618403)
These premises may or may not make sense, but the thing that matters is capturable revenue.

European settlers being on the north american continent would be an amazing technical tour de force. But relatively speaking, there isn't much revenue there.

Re:A forecast of the fair market value of SpaceX's businesses by WalterBright on Thursday April 02, 2026 @02:44PM (#47618511)
Jamestown was a failure.

The Pilgrims starved their first year.

Re:A forecast of the fair market value of SpaceX's businesses by malfist on Thursday April 02, 2026 @02:57PM (#47618689)
Okay? The US is the largest country market in the world.
Re:A forecast of the fair market value of SpaceX's businesses by prewett on Thursday April 02, 2026 @03:34PM (#47619131)
I'm not sure that the continental Colonies brought in much revenue, though. The individual colonists could do quite well, but viewed as an financial investment for the British Crown (which they were not, but that's the OP's analogy) I don't think they were very good. Plus, when they wanted to extract revenue via taxes, the Colonies revolted. Eight years of war probably cost a pretty penny, too.

(Sourcing my claim is difficult. I include this reference [1], which says that the Caribbean colonies were more profitable than all the continental colonies together. It doesn't comment on the cost of the war.)

[1] https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-ushistory1ay/chapter/...

Re:A forecast of the fair market value of SpaceX's businesses by WalterBright on Thursday April 02, 2026 @03:49PM (#47619315)
America became a success much later.
Re:A forecast of the fair market value of SpaceX's businesses by bumby on Friday April 03, 2026 @04:50PM (#47632088)
I think you are in agreement. The poster you replied to seem to insinuate that immediate revenue (in the Americas/space) isn't the best indicator of latter successful pioneering markets.