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Re:Thoughts on Slowing the Fuck Down by anthk on Wednesday March 25, 2026 @01:00PM (#47520092)
In Europe they are. Call yourself an Engineer without a degree and your company and you will be sued with a big fine, because here you must be legally accountable on disasters and ofc there are hard constraints .
Re:Thoughts on Slowing the Fuck Down by embedding-shape on Wednesday March 25, 2026 @01:13PM (#47520258)
> In Europe they are

Where specifically? I've been working as a "Software engineer" for multiple decades, across three countries in Europe, and 2-3 countries outside of Europe, never been sued or received a "big fine" for this, even have had presentations for government teams and similar, not a single person have reacted to me (or others) calling ourselves "software engineers" this whole time.

Re:Thoughts on Slowing the Fuck Down by dranudin on Wednesday March 25, 2026 @04:20PM (#47522619)
In Germany. I have a degree in mechanical engineering and am thus allowed to call myself an engineer, even though I write software professionally. Colleagues who have studied computer science cannot, as it is not considered an engineering, but a science degree. This is why most people talk about "software developers" and not about "software engineers" (in German) to avoid this problem. That being said, most people would not actually care.
Re:Thoughts on Slowing the Fuck Down by anthk on Thursday March 26, 2026 @11:11AM (#47531485)
Where it should be the reverse. Science demands reproducibily where engineering just tight thresholds to function upon defined conditions, but not 100% exact.

And except for SEL4 and some small microcontrollers with Eforth, C and tons of languages have undefined behaviours.

Re:Thoughts on Slowing the Fuck Down by organsnyder on Wednesday March 25, 2026 @01:52PM (#47520840)
Canada also (at least some provinces). I have quite a few Canadian software engineer colleagues with their iron rings to prove it.
Re:Thoughts on Slowing the Fuck Down by nizsle on Wednesday March 25, 2026 @04:25PM (#47522679)
An iron ring does not technically make you an engineer in Canada. It just says you graduated from an engineering program. A P.Eng, which is a professional engineer's license is something you acquire after multiple years of experience and testing.
Re:Thoughts on Slowing the Fuck Down by petr25102018 on Wednesday March 25, 2026 @02:44PM (#47521481)
No, that's plain wrong (I am from Czech Republic). You can even get an "engineering degree" (Ing.) by studying economics.
Re:Thoughts on Slowing the Fuck Down by anthk on Thursday March 26, 2026 @11:06AM (#47531418)
Not in Spain, Germany, France...