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Re:Time Is Different by usrnm on Friday February 27, 2026 @04:07AM (#47178361)
> No no, an intelligent person looking at a crude steam engine could see what potential it has. This is not hindsight

Steam engines were known since the first century, at the vert least: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile

It does take a lot of imagination and creativity to come up with new and better ways to use an already existing idea. We're currently just scratching the surface of what LLMs are going to do for us

Re:Time Is Different by qsera on Friday February 27, 2026 @04:14AM (#47178411)
Yea, sure.

Better search could be used in ways that we can't think of right now..

Re:Time Is Different by usrnm on Friday February 27, 2026 @04:24AM (#47178483)
I already use AI tools for more things than just "better search". Like, today. For work.
Re:Time Is Different by qsera on Friday February 27, 2026 @04:32AM (#47178544)
Yes, part of some kinds of work is actually just a glorified looking-up aka search.

For example, even something like "I want python code to do X" could get exact hit in a stack overflow answer using regular internet "search"

Just wrote about it here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47178461

Re:Time Is Different by Sebguer on Friday February 27, 2026 @05:02AM (#47178714)
you can keep repeating your same point that doesn't address the conversation being had, it doesn't make it any more profound.
Re:Time Is Different by qsera on Friday February 27, 2026 @05:14AM (#47178785)
He he..if you didn't want to say anything why not just not say anything?
Re:Time Is Different by danlitt on Friday February 27, 2026 @05:39AM (#47178940)
From your exact link,

> The aeolipile is considered to be the first recorded steam engine or reaction steam turbine, but it is neither a practical source of power nor a direct predecessor of the type of steam engine invented during the Industrial Revolution.

Re:Time Is Different by usrnm on Friday February 27, 2026 @06:08AM (#47179139)
Which is the exact point I was trying to make? It's still a steam engine, the basic idea is there and, yet, nobody saw its huge potential
Re:Time Is Different by qsera on Friday February 27, 2026 @06:54AM (#47179501)
Re:Time Is Different by direwolf20 on Friday February 27, 2026 @06:11AM (#47179154)
The ancient Greeks surely would have realised that an aeolipile could be used as a source of power, if they'd had abundant combustible fuel, a need for rotary motion, and no better source of it.

Newcomen engines are mere curiosities today, because we have better sources of power (better engines). In the past, they had better sources of power too (donkeys, wind, water, or human slaves). Newcomen engines, like all technologies, are only viable in certain economic environments. In all others they are curiosities.