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Re:Windows Phone 8 live event (10 AM PT) by quotemstr on Monday October 29, 2012 @01:39PM (#4713444)
> They'll never learn.

I'm with Microsoft. There must be something wrong with the implants: I've been here for years and still don't understand the culture. I don't understand why people use "ask" as a noun instead of "request"; I don't understand why almost every here uses "Microsoft Tag" instead of universal, ubiquitous-in-the-outside-world QR codes; and I don't understand why we still create websites using Silverlight instead of moving to Flash or HTML5.

Don't people realize how transparently sycophantic they look when they use a technology that's dead to the outside world? Depending on the day, I feel like either 1) some people are so insulated from the outside world that they believe Silverlight yet lives, 2) they know Silverlight is dead and are terrified of the wrath of LCA coming down upon from for installing non-Microsoft software on their work computers, or 3) they're savvy, but trying to use as much jargon and proprietary stuff as possible in order to project a false image of group cohesion and loyalty come review time.

Re:Windows Phone 8 live event (10 AM PT) by grecy on Monday October 29, 2012 @02:11PM (#4713637)
Maybe it's

4) They are so caught up in bureaucracy and mindless tasks they actually don't even know what Silverlight is, and why it's dying/dead.

Re:Windows Phone 8 live event (10 AM PT) by jmspring on Monday October 29, 2012 @03:07PM (#4713900)
Silverlight is dead?

Funny, I believe that is what Netflix uses to stream to the desktop. Also, given the install base of Windows, I am pretty sure most everyday users have it installed.

I'm a Mac person myself and only fire up Chrome when I need Flash. I've got silverlight installed across all browsers -- mainly due to netflix. That said, I see "web designers" doing more annoying sites with Flash (mmm...embedded video that auto plays with volume) than I do with Silverlight.

Just a thought.

Re:Windows Phone 8 live event (10 AM PT) by stusmall on Monday October 29, 2012 @04:45PM (#4714368)
The install base of silverlight is pretty low, but way higher than I expected. Its hard to get hard reliable numbers but I've seen from 50% all the way up to 70% or so. Its much higher than I expected, but not high enough to count on. I don't get the draw when flash has an install base in the higher end of 90%. Once again its hard to get reliable numbers, but there is no doubt it trounces silverlight.

Even java plug-in install base beats silverlight's which is pretty bad. I know netflix and mlb.com use it, but I don't know a lot of others. I'm sure they are there, but it doesn't scream lively tech to me.

Re:Windows Phone 8 live event (10 AM PT) by jlmendezbonini on Monday October 29, 2012 @05:13PM (#4714484)
I realize that Silverlight is not pre-installed with Windows but it I read that some OEMs (Dell for example) do bundle it for their customers. Anyone can verify this?
Re:Windows Phone 8 live event (10 AM PT) by seanmcdirmid on Monday October 29, 2012 @04:45PM (#4714371)
Well, if you try to view the site on a brand new SurfaceRT using Metro IE...could be some problems.
Re:Windows Phone 8 live event (10 AM PT) by underwater on Monday October 29, 2012 @08:29PM (#4715360)
Why would you work there if you dislike it so much you feel it's necessary to criticize them in a public forum?
Re:Windows Phone 8 live event (10 AM PT) by rbanffy on Tuesday October 30, 2012 @04:59AM (#4716638)
Sometimes people criticize something they love, hoping someone who can fix the problem will listen and fix it.