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Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by elorant on Thursday February 12, 2026 @08:18PM (#46997726)
There have been discussions about this chip here in the past. Maybe not that particular one but previous versions of it. The whole server if I remember correctly eats some 20KWs of power.
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by neya on Thursday February 12, 2026 @09:27PM (#46998216)
20KW? Wow. That's a lot of power. Is that figure per hour?
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by ai-christianson on Thursday February 12, 2026 @09:38PM (#46998297)
If you run it for an hour, yes.
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by neya on Thursday February 12, 2026 @09:40PM (#46998310)
I asked because that's the average power consumption of an average household in the US per day. So, if that figure is per hour, that's equivalent to one household worth of power consumption per hour...which is a lot.
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by mediaman on Thursday February 12, 2026 @11:10PM (#46998831)
Others clarified the kW versus kWh, but to re-visit the comparison to a household:

One household uses about 30 kWh per day.

20 kW * 24 = 480 kWh per day for the server.

So you're looking at one server (if parent's 20kW number is accurate - I see other sources saying even 25kW) consuming 16 households worth of energy.

For comparison, a hair dryer uses around 1.5 kW of energy, which is just below the rating for most US home electrical circuits. This is something like 13 hair dryers going on full blast.

Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by seaal on Thursday February 12, 2026 @11:46PM (#46999026)
Which honestly doesn't sound that bad given how many users one server is able to serve.
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by mycall on Friday February 13, 2026 @09:46AM (#47003316)
At least with GPT-5.3-Codex-Spark, I gather most of the AI inference isn't rendering cat videos but mostly useful work.. so I don't feel tooo bad about 16 households worth of energy.
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by wongarsu on Friday February 13, 2026 @11:03AM (#47004248)
To be fair, this is 16 households of electrical energy. The average household uses about as much electrical energy as it uses energy in form of natural gas (or butane or fuel oil, depending on what they use). And then roughly as much gasoline as they use electricity. So really more like 5 households of energy. And that's just your direct energy use, not accounting for all the products including food consumed in the average household.
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by jodrellblank on Thursday February 12, 2026 @09:46PM (#46998345)
Consumption of a house per day is measured in kiloWatt-hours (an amount of power like litres of water), not kiloWatts (a flow of power like 1 litre per second of water).

1 Watt = 1 Joule per second.

Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by neya on Thursday February 12, 2026 @10:07PM (#46998475)
Thanks!
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by cortesoft on Thursday February 12, 2026 @10:04PM (#46998456)
I think you are confusing KW (kilowatt) with KWH (kilowatt hour).

A KW is a unit of power while a KWH is a unit of energy. Power is a measure of energy transferred in an amount of time, which is why you rate an electronic device’s energy usage using power; it consumes energy over time.

In terms of paying for electricity, you care about the total energy consumed, which is why your electric bill is denominated in KWH, which is the amount of energy used if you use one kilowatt of power for one hour.

Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by neya on Thursday February 12, 2026 @10:07PM (#46998470)
You're right, I absolutely was mixing them both. Thanks for clarifying!
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by lm28469 on Friday February 13, 2026 @08:25AM (#47002427)
Acktshually "kW" and "kWh" to be precise
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by taneq on Friday February 13, 2026 @07:41AM (#47002058)
Ah yes, like those EV chargers that are rated at X kWh/hour.
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by t0mas88 on Friday February 13, 2026 @12:04PM (#47004976)
You would hope that an EV reporting x kWh/hour considers the charge curve when charging for an hour. Then it makes sense to report that instead of the peak kW rating. But reality is that they just report the peak kW rating as the "kWh/hour" :-(
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by ipython on Thursday February 12, 2026 @09:32PM (#46998257)
It’s 20kW for as long as you can afford the power bill
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by fodkodrasz on Friday February 13, 2026 @01:32AM (#46999592)
What do you mean by "per hour"?

Watt is a measure of power, that is a rate: Joule/second, [energy/time]

> The watt (symbol: W) is the unit of power or radiant flux in the International System of Units (SI), equal to 1 joule per second or 1 kg⋅m2⋅s−3.[1][2][3] It is used to quantify the rate of energy transfer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt

Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by ddalex on Friday February 13, 2026 @01:41AM (#46999657)
20 kWh per hour
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by dyauspitr on Friday February 13, 2026 @12:35AM (#46999266)
That’s wild. That’s like running 15 indoor heaters at the same time.
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by zozbot234 on Friday February 13, 2026 @12:44AM (#46999315)
A first-gen Oxide Computer rack puts out max 15 kW of power, and they manage to do that with air cooling. The liquid-cooled AI racks being used today for training and inference workloads almost certainly have far higher power output than that.

(Bringing liquid cooling to the racks likely has to be one of the biggest challenges with this whole new HPC/AI datacenter infrastructure, so the fact that an aircooled rack can just sit in mostly any ordinary facility is a non-trivial advantage.)

Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by elcritch on Friday February 13, 2026 @03:10AM (#47000215)
Well for some. Google has been using liquid cooling to racks for decades.
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by c0balt on Friday February 13, 2026 @07:19AM (#47001880)
> Bringing liquid cooling to the racks likely has to be one of the biggest challenges with this whole new HPC/AI

Are you sure about that? HPC has had full rack liquid cooling for a long time now.

The primary challenge with the current generation is the unusual increase of power density in racks. This necessitates upgrades in capacity, notably getting 10-20 kWh of heat away from few Us is generally though but if done can increase density.

Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by jmalicki on Friday February 13, 2026 @09:58AM (#47003443)
HPC is also not a normal data center but also usually doesn't have the scale of hyperscaler AI data centers either.
Re:GPT‑5.3‑Codex‑Spark by mlyle on Friday February 13, 2026 @10:23AM (#47003717)
> The liquid-cooled AI racks being used today for training and inference workloads almost certainly have far higher power output than that.

75kW is a sane "default baseline" and you can find plenty of deployments at 130kW.

There's talk of pushing to 240kW and beyond...