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Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by swiftcoder on Sunday January 25, 2026 @05:10AM (#46752571)
> In which category are there better iOS apps?

Almost all of the prosumer apps on iOS offer a consistently better experience. This is maybe less relevant on phones than on tablets, but music production, video editing, digital painting and drafting, etc...

Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by hulitu on Sunday January 25, 2026 @09:33AM (#46754348)
> Almost all of the prosumer apps on iOS offer a consistently better experience

So for people who don't want to use computers. I cannot work with a tablet or phone. I need a computer.

Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by swiftcoder on Sunday January 25, 2026 @10:08AM (#46754659)
I mean, as someone who is mainly a programmer, same. But high-end cameras, big touchscreens, and an excellent pencil input is sort of the optimal device for a whole bunch of creative tasks
Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by SoftTalker on Sunday January 25, 2026 @12:25PM (#46756004)
Are the cameras "high-end"? Good for a phone, certainly. But compared to a real camera with a much bigger lens and sensor?
Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by econ on Sunday January 25, 2026 @04:08PM (#46758251)
I make the superior picture with my camera but then it sits there on an SD card in the camera. I have to boot a desktop, hope the USB connection works today, find a folder, create and name a folder in the folder, copy the pictures there, find and open something to view and edit the images with, find and open something to upload the images. OR open the camera, take out th SD card, boot up a computer, plug the card into a reader or a laptop and do the same ritual.

People pretend this is a perfectly acceptable workfow. It is not.

The pictures would have to be dramatically better than those made by phones. They are not.

I shoot, review on the much larger phone screen, click share and chose from countless options to publish immediately. OR edit it a bit and enjoy the same.

I also never consciously bring the phone, it's just there in my pocket. Interesting things happen, you unholster it and start shooting. The real camera is more like guard duty. You sit there waiting for the interesting shot. Sometimes that works out and some of those times the extra quality is actually visible and some of that time it is totally worth it. The rest of the time I wonder what it is I think I'm doing.

Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by cesarb on Sunday January 25, 2026 @04:14PM (#46758307)
> but then it sits there on an SD card in the camera. I have to boot a desktop, hope the USB connection works today [...] OR open the camera, take out th SD card [...]

Or open the app on your smartphone (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.canon.ic...), connect to the camera through WiFi, and copy the photos directly.

Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by ichicoro on Monday January 26, 2026 @08:16AM (#46765261)
I don't know about Canon's offering... but Sony's is lackluster to say the least. On my A6000 (and possibly other older models), you can't import RAWs, only JPEGs. Not to add that manual connection to the camera's wifi is a rather "annoying" process, having to go into the camera settings, manually turning on wifi, going into the phone's settings/quick menu to connect to said hotspot, then open the app, etc...

It's just a plain worse experience to just some extremely good phones like the iPhones with pro camera apps

Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by econ on Monday January 26, 2026 @09:52AM (#46766314)
We are apparently very spoiled with how smooth some things work on smart phones.

I want dedicated cameras to offer a superior experience. In stead it is quite bad.

In order to publish one should first disconnect the internet?

I have to put down the camera and pick up the competing device?

My absolute favorite annoyance with my cameras is the lack of charging over USB. After taking a good amount of pictures I have to guess if there is enough battery left to transfer the images to the computer.

Not that PCs or laptops offer very good charging power. This because there is little demand.

It seems in order to make the superior experience the camera maker should also make phones and/or laptops? I have no idea really.

All I know is that my phone has 100W charging. I can almost immediately return to the front. The camera does have swappable batteries going for it but that I have to remove it from the tripod to reload it won't win the war.

Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by mike50 on Sunday January 25, 2026 @07:43PM (#46760348)
I just plug the sd card reader into my phone.
Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by JoshTriplett on Sunday January 25, 2026 @03:56PM (#46758125)
> Good for a phone, certainly.

The multiple lenses and the processing power make smartphones wildly better than almost any consumer camera, particularly for someone without professional photography skills. A professional camera in the hands of a professional photographer can do better, but that means the market has changed from "consumers buy consumer cameras, professionals buy professional cameras" to "consumers use the camera that's always in their pocket and get surprisingly good results, professionals buy professional cameras".

Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by AlotOfReading on Sunday January 25, 2026 @12:37PM (#46756140)
They're good enough to have displaced the vast majority of camera purchases, and be used by professionals (e.g. influencers, photojournalists, pro photographers).

There are benefits to larger sensors, but the best camera is the one you have in-hand.

Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by Forgeties79 on Sunday January 25, 2026 @02:44PM (#46757457)
They can certainly hang with some of the big dogs.

Apple’s camera(s) and color science is fantastic. The black magic app in particular shows off their capability.

Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by epolanski on Sunday January 25, 2026 @04:56PM (#46758780)
I own a galaxy tab s7 fe and I'm quite happy with it to be honest.

Not sure what I'd want more from an iPad.

It is true that it has slightly more apps, but realistically all I need is there.

Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by bigyabai on Sunday January 25, 2026 @01:08PM (#46756448)
The iOS prosumer apps are, frankly, pathetic. I produce music and every single DAW/plugin on iPad is very clearly a "lite" version of something that would run better on a full-featured OS. There's really no workflow I can imagine that doesn't entail using a real PC for basic mixing and arrangement.
Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by swiftcoder on Sunday January 25, 2026 @03:57PM (#46758129)
> I produce music and every single DAW/plugin on iPad is very clearly a "lite" version of something...

I agree in several cases, but the question here wasn't "are they better than PC equivalents", it was "are they better than what's available on Android"

Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by bigstrat2003 on Sunday January 25, 2026 @02:41PM (#46757436)
That isn't saying much. Even the best possible music editing (etc) app on a tablet is still crappy, by virtue of the form factor. Tablets simply are not suitable for getting actual work done.
Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by no_wizard on Sunday January 25, 2026 @05:02PM (#46758862)
This is changing with iPadOS, but the market needs to catch up with that. It supports a mouse and keyboard really really well now
Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by bigyabai on Sunday January 25, 2026 @05:32PM (#46759222)
> the market needs to catch up with that

By that token, touchscreen laptops will replace the iPad any day now.

I think the preeminent issue is that touch-native UIs are very imprecise and clunky by nature. The iPad makes a great MIDI controller; it's an awful mixer or plugin host compared to a regular laptop running regular PC plugins. Buying a mouse or keyboard won't port Omnisphere or the U-He plugins to iPad. I doubt the market will ever "catch up" in that regard.

Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by StreamingPanda on Sunday January 25, 2026 @10:14PM (#46761451)
While I can't speak to the editing side of things, the live music apps for ios are exceptional. My dad is a musician and I'm a sound engineer. The sheer number and quality of the apps dwarfs the android offerings.
Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by kwanbix on Sunday January 25, 2026 @05:24PM (#46759136)
Seems super biased comming by someone called SWIFTcoder.
Re:Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is comin... by swiftcoder on Monday January 26, 2026 @10:38AM (#46766951)
Hah. Username pre-dates the programming language by more than a decade