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Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by tombert on Sunday January 25, 2026 @12:50AM (#46751155)
The more I read about Palantir, the creepier and weirder it becomes. The CEO brags about wanting to kill all journalists with fentanyl, or brags about how their software will be used to kill people, and how readily they're willing to work for the convicted fraudster that America felt fit to give the nuclear codes.

And despite this company being creepy and weird and bizarre and secretive, they are also trying to make themselves a lifestyle brand by selling merchandise. If I felt like spending $150 for a Palantir-based hoodie, I guess I can normally do that [1], but disturbingly it is apparently "sold out". Apparently a lot of people really want to buy an overpriced sweater, or maybe they're trying to preemptively buy social credit.

Who knows. Everything is terrible.

[1] https://store.palantir.com/

Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by MagicMoonlight on Sunday January 25, 2026 @04:05AM (#46752155)
Aww, they’re sold out
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by tombert on Sunday January 25, 2026 @04:07AM (#46752165)
I know! How will I get Alex Karp to notice me now????
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by gabaix on Sunday January 25, 2026 @02:22AM (#46751609)
Karp is a philosopher by training that has fallen into ideological blindness. He claims that he is on the right side of history. Democracies need Palantir badly.

He preaches his views to his employees. No one in his flock seems to wonder what would happen if their tools were to be used against democracy.

Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by tombert on Sunday January 25, 2026 @03:37AM (#46751983)
I just find it odd, because their entire business depends on being a creepy entity that has access to "all the data". There would be no reason for ICE or any government organization to actually use their services if they didn't have access to a lot of data that they didn't.
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by jacquesm on Sunday January 25, 2026 @02:25AM (#46751626)
By that kind of reasoning the Mafia is doing just great.

Not everything is about money.

Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by assaddayinh on Sunday January 25, 2026 @02:58AM (#46751778)
Karp is a philosopher who had to look at humanity as it is without the idealizations. Longtermism, dark enlightenment, yada ya.. all just fancy terms for enlightenment, actual progress. Not the delusions that you can talk yourself into when high on resources.

The points made while on drugs are worse than worthless they are dangerous to longterm survival and those who engage in this are deeply amoral. Most of humanity is basically glorified stoners, congratulating themselves on how high they get while their futures starve. The opinion of the retarded about the warden is always that he is evil.

Go, get yourself some access to a database collected from the seeing stones(aka cellphones) and write your own behavioural queries. Look at the damage and weep. Realize the best we can manage is stabilization in shitty conditions because the warmode species is to retarded. And then go on the web and listen to the blabber of the retarded. Fusion and mini reactors will save civilzation. Meanwhile they handed out proliferation "tracking nukes" aka lookalikes with gps) in every war since the coldwar and guess what the fanatics already have blown it up, several times. Thats why panopticon, thats why electric drugs (games), thats why scenario root hardening, including hardening against government tribalist retardation. Go buy yourself a hoodie. Oh, and its all good, we are going to mars.

Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by datsci_est_2015 on Sunday January 25, 2026 @07:19AM (#46753467)
> Meanwhile they handed out proliferation "tracking nukes" aka lookalikes with gps) in every war since the coldwar and guess what the fanatics already have blown it up, several times.

Interesting, plausible, and yet something I have never heard of before despite believing myself relatively well-read. Do you have a source for this, even if it was an unverified leak?

Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by nextos on Sunday January 25, 2026 @01:03AM (#46751217)
Ironically, the Danish Government is a heavy user of Palantir systems, including creepy predictive policing solutions.

I would be keen to know if citizen data is being handled correctly, following GDPR/LED.

Given previous Danish client-state-like cooperation with NSA to spy on other EU countries, I can imagine the answer.

Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by lostlogin on Sunday January 25, 2026 @01:17AM (#46751282)
> including creepy predictive policing solutions.

Minority Report coming right up.

Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by anton001 on Sunday January 25, 2026 @03:26AM (#46751929)
Which predictive policing solution from palantir are they using?
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by nextos on Sunday January 25, 2026 @01:38PM (#46756797)
Their local Palantir implementation is called POL-INTEL. This thesis presents a good critical overview [1].

[1] https://en.itu.dk/-/media/EN/Research/PhD-Programme/PhD-defe...

Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by izacus on Sunday January 25, 2026 @02:17AM (#46751588)
GDPR has carveouts for governments and law enforcement so they can do whatever for those purposes.
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by nextos on Sunday January 25, 2026 @01:36PM (#46756775)
The framework is the one I referred to (EU LED). In Denmark, LED is implemented in the Danish Law Enforcement Act.

However, LED has some purpose limitations, which critics argue the Danish Law Enforcement Act has bypassed. Some are trying to challenge it.

Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by hexbin010 on Sunday January 25, 2026 @02:05AM (#46751536)
I love how powerful the GDPR marketing was that it made people forget that there are massive exceptions for prevention of crime and for the government
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by gyanchawdhary on Sunday January 25, 2026 @02:39AM (#46751689)
This reads like someone who replaced thinking with the word “creepy” and hit paste until it felt like an opinion. If your critique is just moral panic (and I guess merch anxiety) you’re not exposing anything … and speaking of merch, their Karp “Dominate” shirt is absolutely killer
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by tombert on Sunday January 25, 2026 @02:47AM (#46751721)
I'm sorry, which forum do you think you're on? This isn't a fucking "publication", it's a discussion forum for a bunch of software geeks. I'm not trying to "expose" anything, I'm saying that when I read about how much crap they do, how much they work with ICE, and how deeply unlikable the CEO is, then yeah they're creepy. It really is just an "opinion", so you trying to call that out shows a lack of comprehension of the forum and honestly the English language as a whole.

Frankly, I think the fact that you're so willing to simp for a creepy billionaire and a creepy multi-billion dollar company so much as to call one of their shirts "absolutely killer" says a lot more about you than anything else.

Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by gyanchawdhary on Sunday January 25, 2026 @03:00AM (#46751785)
no need to apologise .. but see you are doing it again .. hiding behind “it’s just my opinion” after dumping a slurry of buzzwords and vibes .. also no one is confused about what forum this is … people here still expect opinions to have content…

However screening “creepy billionaire” and then accusing anyone who disagrees of “simping” is reddit tier brainrot .. not discourse. If that’s your bar, don’t get mad when someone notices you cleared it by crawling ;)

Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by noitpmeder on Sunday January 25, 2026 @03:08AM (#46751834)
I don't think the sentiment the poster you're interacting with is anything novel or surprising to find on HN. To be honest it's largely the prevailing outlook from what I understand (maybe with some more reserved language) ESPECIALLY for those not intimately connected with SV in America.

I'd definitely be having these thoughts a bit more often if I was someone in another country that found out my govt is using their services, even more so with the recent migrate-off-us-tech momentum.

Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by tombert on Sunday January 25, 2026 @03:31AM (#46751956)
I mean, isn't this kind of the point of Palantir? Like don't they want to be known as a technological Big Brother? If they weren't Silicon Valley Big Brother, then why would a government even want to use their service?

It feels like they want to have their cake and eat it too; they hate the negative press calling them creepy, but also depend on that press to do their marketing because if they weren't creepy then they wouldn't have a product.

Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by gyanchawdhary on Sunday January 25, 2026 @03:27AM (#46751932)
imn a software engineer/entrepreneur .. and i’m british, and that article is about UK public services ... so this isn’t distant or abstract for me .. aslo, SV isnt some monolith I’m disconnected from .. even without living there .. its companies (especially those ones that can be seen from this original poster (imbecile ?) view point as evil have materially shaped my career and opportunities in ways that wouldn’t have existed otherwise .. btw .. you can be skeptical of Palantir or US tech influence without collapsing everything into an us verus them narrative or assuming disagreement maps cleanly to geography ..
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by tombert on Sunday January 25, 2026 @03:55AM (#46752098)
I didn't reduce it to "us vs. them", I said that they and their CEO are creepy. You took that personally because you parasocially love Daddy Alex.
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by hackable_sand on Sunday January 25, 2026 @05:54AM (#46752908)
"entrepreneur" LOL
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by datsci_est_2015 on Sunday January 25, 2026 @07:23AM (#46753492)
Yeah sometimes I question the time and effort I give to some comments on this forum, especially when it comes to more nuanced non-programming topics. I’ve seen what some people have to say about programming and it’s appalling… extend that to something on which they’re not even formally educated? Yeesh
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by gyanchawdhary on Sunday January 25, 2026 @08:51AM (#46754069)
lol. Losing must suck.
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by datsci_est_2015 on Sunday January 25, 2026 @04:44PM (#46758646)
“Losing” tells me your brain probably isn’t even fully developed. It’s even worse…
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by gyanchawdhary on Sunday January 25, 2026 @08:58AM (#46754125)
hackable_sand poor lol
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by popalchemist on Sunday January 25, 2026 @06:50PM (#46759948)
Okay, that rationale was suitable for other eras, however in THIS MOMENT, the "us vs them" is actually an accurate description of CLASS WARFARE BEING WAGED BY THE TECHNOCRAT/PLUTOCRAT CLASS. Wake up.

Furthermore, what is NOT evil about a company who enables the mass surveillance of citizens by the government so that the government can target them for kidnapping, home invasion, and murder (no exaggeration - it's what's happening, see the front page article today about Palintir's enabling of it) as political retribution for dissenting against fascism?

It's evil. We can say it. Don't gatekeep it.

Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by tombert on Sunday January 25, 2026 @03:28AM (#46751943)
"Please, senpai Alex, please notice me! I've been so loyal to you!"

I'm not "hiding" behind anything. I made the assertion that what Palantir does (and discusses publicly [1] [2] [3]) is "creepy". I'm disappointed in your second grade teacher if you don't know what an "opinion" word is, but I guess I will assume the duty: subjective terms, like "creepy", are terms that typically describe a subjective perspective. As there's no claim of objectivity there's also no need to "prove" this, though it can be justified by specific claims, as were linked below. You are of course free to not think that stuff is creepy, that's fine, but I do think it's creepy and I doubt I'm the only one.

I don't accuse everyone who disagrees with me as simping. I'm accusing someone who thinks that a really, really ugly T-Shirt with the word "dominate" written on it as "absolutely killer" of simping. You would not think that that shirt was "killer" if Daddy Alex weren't on there.

That or you're one of those "social media consultants" that directly works for Palantir, in which case I have some other, less polite ways to describe you if you'd prefer.

[1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/palantir-delivers-ice-doss...

[2] https://www.thestreet.com/politics/palantir-ceo-makes-anothe...

[3] https://www.inverse.com/input/tech/palantir-ceo-alex-karp-sa...

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Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by tombert on Sunday January 25, 2026 @03:44AM (#46752032)
> and accusing people of being paid shills

I didn't accuse you of being a paid shill, I said if you are a paid shill I have less polite things to call you. I know that Palantir hires people to try and do social media damage control and so it's hard to know where their reach is.

> ur not defending an opinion > you’re advertising that you don’t have anything sturdier to stand on,

I did provide citations for my opinion. Please feel free to click the links or search for yourself about the specific assertions I made if you'd like; they're not hard to find at all, so you're actively lying when you said "ur not defending an opinion"; just because you were too lazy to click a link does not mean I didn't provide substantiation as to why I think that Alex Karp and Palantir at large is creepy.

> "senpai"

If you're not a paid shill, then your perspective is considerably more pathetic. You are engaging in behavior that is honestly kind of sad. Again, behavior that is usually described by the term "simp".

ETA:

For the record, I didn't flag you. I don't really care if you insult me or call me an imbecile, it's far from the worst thing anyone has called me.

Replying to your flagged response though:

> I though you were just an imbecile, but you seem to be a paranoid one at that .. this is whats really creepy tom.

I don't really see how what I said was "paranoid", considering that this all stuff that's directly publicly available, straight from the mouth of Alex Karp. Even if everything else Palantir did was good, I think what I linked is sufficient to determine that they're "creepy".

You are of course to not think that Palantir is creepy. I'm not sure why you'd have that opinion, but you're welcome to have it.

Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by gyanchawdhary on Sunday January 25, 2026 @09:34AM (#46754362)
That’s cool man. Sorry.
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by defrost on Sunday January 25, 2026 @03:46AM (#46752045)
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by lm28469 on Sunday January 25, 2026 @05:26AM (#46752713)
Your profile paints a clear picture at least, the archetype edgelord techbro. Keep on bringing the high quality comments which are definitely not just your opinions
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by gyanchawdhary on Sunday January 25, 2026 @09:41AM (#46754413)
Thank you kind sir. You sound like a very distinguished and successful person yourself.
Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by popalchemist on Sunday January 25, 2026 @02:48AM (#46751723)
The moral panic is justified, if you take 5 minutes to look into what they do, and who's behind it (YC's own neo-nazi billionaire, Peter Theil, of course, who is actively undermining western democracy and norms in conjunction with Trump, his hand-picked puppet JD Vance, and so on). For example, they created the facial recognition database and national surveillance system that ICE is literally currently using to hunt down and kidnap, torture, deport, and murder political dissenters who have previously been recorded taking part in their right to protest.

If you are too lazy to Google all of that -- it's all fact, not conjecture -- here's one more thing:

"I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible". -Peter Theil, Palantir founder.

Re:Palantir has no place in UK public services by popalchemist on Sunday January 25, 2026 @06:02PM (#46759533)