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Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by 0x1ch on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @01:32PM (#46709553)
Google is only blocked in places where it would already be hard for a company with morals to work in, if not outright blocked as well. This probably represents traffic globally, excluding those places.

Instead of downvoting blindly, please state which countries are currently blocking Google that would willingly allow Kagi, a AI/Privacy focused search engine company to exist in their domain? The results may surprise you!

Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by direwolf20 on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @03:37PM (#46711204)
Google is not blocked in the USA.
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by 0x1ch on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @04:21PM (#46711734)
Interesting. I'm in the US and use Kagi everyday.
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by dylan604 on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @05:14PM (#46712364)
I read it more as "company having morals". Not many US companies have "morals".
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by 0x1ch on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @05:18PM (#46712421)
Google doesn't, Kagi seems to (hopefully). I meant this more as a jab at countries willing to block Google, as they're generally dictatorships / authoritarian in nature. Oh the irony, as an american saying this in 2026....
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by lostlogin on Thursday January 22, 2026 @04:30AM (#46716998)
They do, but do they align with your own?

It’s difficult, because Kagi results are so good and the alternatives are often business that behave worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42349797

Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by direwolf20 on Thursday January 22, 2026 @11:35AM (#46721548)
I've heard Yandex results are good, and they often avoid Google bias. I have no moral problem with Kagi integrating results from Yandex and Google.
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by 0x1ch on Thursday January 22, 2026 @11:43AM (#46721675)
The yandex thing seems to be an argument made in bad faith at this point.
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by mrweasel on Thursday January 22, 2026 @10:19AM (#46720368)
So you use Google. Kagi still rely on Googles index.
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by PunchTornado on Thursday January 22, 2026 @02:54AM (#46716413)
there is no where in the article where they mention this (not even an * saying what they exclude).

they present numbers and say "world" like whole countries and groups of people don't matter. very arrogant.

Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by elektronika on Thursday January 22, 2026 @11:35AM (#46721560)
Google and Facebook would be very happy to operate in China, but they're too closely tied to the US intelligence apparatus to agree to the terms that China requires.
Re:Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings ... by g947o on Friday January 23, 2026 @06:21AM (#46731177)
For years Facebook wanted to get into Chinese market, so much that Zuckerberg asked Xi Jinping to name his child: https://www.the-independent.com/news/people/china-s-presiden...

No I didn't make this up.

And there was reporting like this: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/zuckerberg-s-meta-was-w...

Although a few years they seemed to completely abandon the effort and started to criticize China, although I can't find the article.

You'll be amazed at how quickly Zuckerberg "adapts" to things. Which is why I never trust a single word that comes out of his mouth.