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Re:Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time by gfhifd42 on Saturday January 03, 2026 @06:50PM (#46483114)
We don't "get small glimpses of that on HN"

We get exactly the same thing on hn, because it's the same people, the same culture, the same incentive structure, the same codified toxicity.

And the exact same thing is going to happen to hn. Already is. Already has, frankly.

It's just how sellout culture works. There's no integrity.[1]

SO failed because the founders had no integrity and HN is going to fail because the founders have no integrity.

Lacking integrity has short term benefits that sacrifice the long term.

From Good to great to failure.

Anyone else remwmber when Joel said he'd never sell SO and then this [1] happened? I remember.

[1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/stack-overflow-sold-...

It goes even farther back to 2009 when Jeff sold out the benevolence incentive for self promotion to make money for himself thru SO.

https://blog.codinghorror.com/stack-overflow-careers-amplify... (be sure to read the comments)

The stated purpose of SO was that the expert sex change.com was making money off q&a and jeff and joel resented that.

And then the SO folks make their q&a site about making money.

No integrity. So the good people left and the toxic people stayed.

That's the root cause analysis.

Re:Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time by ajkjk on Saturday January 03, 2026 @07:17PM (#46483318)
well you can say all that but it doesn't hold up to experience. The culture feels very different here. So, no, it's not the same.
Re:Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time by gfhifd42 on Saturday January 03, 2026 @07:36PM (#46483471)
Well I've been around here longer than you and i don't have a vested interest in the koolaid.

You think being on this site gives you cred. That's why you personally identify yourself. You likely have your hn profile link on your resume or website etc. Hoping maybe this place will lead to something for you.

Clearly we don't agree on that. I don't even bother to turn off secret mode for this tripe.

Thank you malfist for proving my point. Lol

Re:Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time by malfist on Saturday January 03, 2026 @07:57PM (#46483623)
For someone with a green username, you sure do have strong opinions about hn
Re:Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time by gfhifd42 on Sunday January 04, 2026 @12:00AM (#46485084)
I literally said I've been here longer than someone who has been here since 2013 so you attack my profile age.

This is the toxic destruction of hn I'm talking about.

You are the toxic one. You offer negative value.

Re:Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time by malfist on Sunday January 04, 2026 @10:34AM (#46488912)
If you meet one asshole on your way to work, they're probably an asshole. If everyone you meet is an asshole, you're probably the asshole.
Re:Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time by ajkjk on Saturday January 03, 2026 @10:13PM (#46484462)
maybe I think those things, or maybe I think totally different things; you have no way of knowing
Re:Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time by gfhifd42 on Saturday January 03, 2026 @11:42PM (#46484995)
I know because i click your username and see your email and website.

Click on my name you get nothing.

Yours is full of hope of someone reaching out to you. Mine is idgaf.

I don't need to defend the status quo. I don't want karma pOints.

I want integrity.

Re:Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time by ajkjk on Sunday January 04, 2026 @08:58AM (#46488022)
What you seem to want is to fill the comment section with deranged rambling
Re:Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time by fragmede on Sunday January 04, 2026 @12:12AM (#46485148)
> Well I've been around here longer than you

Prove it. Use your main account, you coward.

Re:Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time by gfhifd42 on Sunday January 04, 2026 @12:47AM (#46485325)
I don't have anything to prove to you.

You are the toxicity I'm talking about. You've added zero value to the discussion. I've offered value.

You attack my account age and I've already said why it's not old.

Because idgaf.

Re:Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time by fragmede on Sunday January 04, 2026 @04:49AM (#46486508)
Integrity usually means owning your words. Pseudonymity can be fine, but pretending it signals higher principle is backwards.
Re:Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time by hahn-kev on Saturday January 03, 2026 @08:25PM (#46483795)
This response sounds quite toxic actually
Re:Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time by gfhifd42 on Saturday January 03, 2026 @11:43PM (#46485005)
Because you don't want to hear it, that's all. It's not toxic, it's idgaf.