> 100% of the american people would be screaming for blood.

Absolutely not. I'd be out celebrating.

People say that, but the sight of say Russian/Mexican/Chinese/Canadian troops parachuting onto the whitehouse lawn to abduct a sitting president, no doubt killing many in the process, would be such an afront that domestic politics wouldnt matter.

C-canadian??

They can burn the whitehouse down. Again.

> I would welcome any method to depose them.

So just to be clear, you think that Trump and the GOP are so bad you would welcome Xi or Putin launching an assault on US soil and depose him?

To push your point even further: do you feel so strongly that you would volunteer to help?

> Putin launching an assault on US soil

This already happened. Trump lead a Russia-backed coup against the United States in January, 2021 to overturn the 2020 election and illegally take the presidency. It failed, but he and every government employee who supported him after that is guilty of treason and is serving illegitimately.

> and is serving illegitimately.

Trump is president because he was elected by the American voter while the opposition was in power. I would not label that as illegitimate and I think it is dangerous to spread that narrative.

Trump lead a coup against the US, is guilty of treason, and is ineligible for public office. I agree it is dangerous to have a traitor to the US in the presidency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_Un...

> Trump lead a coup against the US, is guilty of treason

Was he tried and convicted? If his successor and the opposition truly believed that why did they not go after him for it?

A lack of prosecution does not imply innocence. There were several attempts to go after him for it, but the courts are intentionally set up to favor the wealthy and powerful, in this case via infinite delay tactics. I still think it could've been done and I'll never forgive the Biden DOJ for delaying forever and letting him skate. He should've been in jail by February, serving his sentence by summer.

I assumed they would be parachuting in on Mar-A-Lago or some golf course somewhere.

I think you vastly overestimate the value that people place on Trump. The GOP would swear in President Vance and count their blessings.

... and then President Vance maintaining the status quo would bring you back to reality.

One fewer enemy of the US in a position of power is worth celebrating even if it's not all of them.

There will always be enemies and corrupt people. We need to establish a system of government and culture that doesn't so easily give over the reigns of the nation to these bad actors. If we don't actively do this we will long for the good old days when the corrupt leaders just wanted to steal money for themselves and hurt trans people.

for what is Maduro an enemy of the US. He wasn't willing to sign over the oil reserves to US oil companies. wanting to keep what is theirs away from rapacious foreign invaders would make most of the planet an enemy of the US.

I doubt Vance is capable of getting the support from Congress and the maga voters that Trump has. Once Trump is gone, the Republican party is going to have a hard time putting itself back together.

No, we very much support Vance.

Meanwhile, the individual upthread suggesting they’d support a foreign power invading the US and capturing Trump is the ridiculous, childish, and deeply unserious brand of self-loathing that we are voraciously (and necessarily, if our country is to survive) opposed to.

You, personally, might, but I think it's going to be a clusterfuck. You can't stick a different person in a cult of personality and expect it to act the same.

What is childish about being glad an enemy of the United States was removed from a position of power?

Ask your parents.

Weak.

I'd be concerned about exactly what price would be asked. No one country spends their cash and soldiers to "liberate" for free. I've turned down free gifts before because I knew they came with strings attached.

Capture might not be the aim. The coming decades will see anonymous effective asymmetric warfare with USA infrastructure and the USA political establishment as prime targets. That's the big concern.

A new cold war effectively, but with the goal of cementing local power.

That is a very real risk. Action -> reaction.

Huh... they better build some readily-available hyper-powerful infrastructure, pronto, or that next election could hand power to folks that don't have the best interest of the country in mind:

https://thedreydossier.substack.com/p/trump-isnt-building-a-...

> 100% of the american people would be screaming for blood.

Honestly, at this point, I wouldn't be one of them.

I would not be screaming for blood. It is the world order he wants, and perhaps the only possible lesson in why we shouldn’t give him that world order.

Most polls put it at 30%. (And 30% of those that could vote, didn't—so here we are.)

Maybe, but from observing US politics from afar for a decade, 50% would be screaming for Trumps blood to lock in the win.

Trump is Russia's guy. There is no way I'd be screaming for revenge over a horrifying complicated nightmare becoming even more toxic, even more complicated, and even more nightmarish. If anyone comes and gets Trump it ain't Russia: he is already theirs, and acting in such a way as to further all their aims and all their narratives.