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Re:Toll roads are spreading in America by hedora on Saturday December 27, 2025 @09:35PM (#46407855)
The HOV lanes cause absurd amounts of congestion, both from encouraging all the HOV drivers to aggressively switch lanes, and because they greatly increase the speed differential between lanes.

They’re a money / surveillance grab.

Re:Toll roads are spreading in America by iknowstuff on Saturday December 27, 2025 @10:13PM (#46408030)
Is there data to support this or is this just your hunch? Because I’m betting this is false.

It’s not a money grab as much as moving more of the actual cost of freeways onto drivers who are mostly used to externalizing it

Re:Toll roads are spreading in America by whateveracct on Sunday December 28, 2025 @03:23AM (#46409408)
people drive slow in HOV lanes. and the. in the lane next to it, people do too. it destroys the natural speed hierarchy of highway driving.
Re:Toll roads are spreading in America by bakies on Sunday December 28, 2025 @06:41PM (#46415652)
no one respects that hierarchy anymore anyway in my experience. The HOV lane is usually traveling faster that the passing lane.
Re:Toll roads are spreading in America by SR2Z on Sunday December 28, 2025 @02:32AM (#46409192)
I really would like to see a citation for how adding new, congestion-free lanes with limited opportunities for merging to an already congested highway makes it worse.
Re:Toll roads are spreading in America by whimsicalism on Sunday December 28, 2025 @08:05AM (#46410798)
yeah i think you’re just making up reasons to be mad about something you were going to dislike.