So you would say it is not "trendy" to be pro-AI right now, is that it? That it's not trendy to say things like "it's not going away" or "AI isn't a fad" or "AI needs better critics" - one reaction is reasonable, well thought-out, the other is a bandwagon?
Re:Rob Pike Goes Nuclear over GenAI
by DiscourseFan on Friday December 26, 2025 @10:10AM
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At the very least there is an ideological conflict brewing in tech, and this post is a flashpoint. But just like the recent war between Israel and Hamas, no amount of reaction can defeat technological dominance--at least not in the long term. And the pro-AI side, whether you think its good or evil, certainly exceeds the other in terms of sheer force through their embrace of technology.
yessss but [fry eyes.gif] can't tell if that's presented as apologia or critique
Notice that the weavers, both the luddites and their non-opposing colleagues, certainly did not get wealthier. They lost their jobs, and they and their children starved. Some starved to death. Wealth was created, but it was not shared.
Remember this when talking about their actions. People live and die their own life, not just as small parts in a large 'river of society'. Yes, generations after them benefited from industrialisation, but the individuals living at that time fought for their lives.
Re:Rob Pike Goes Nuclear over GenAI
by DiscourseFan on Friday December 26, 2025 @10:20AM
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I'm only saying that destroying the mechanical loom didn't help.
Re:Rob Pike Goes Nuclear over GenAI
by amvrrysmrthaker on Friday December 26, 2025 @09:59AM
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It’s in our power to stop it. There’s no point in people like you promoting the interests of the super wealthy at the cost of the humanity of the common people. You should figure out how to positively contribute or not do so at all.
Re:Rob Pike Goes Nuclear over GenAI
by DiscourseFan on Friday December 26, 2025 @10:05AM
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It is not in the interests of the super wealthy alone, just like JP Morgan's railroads were created for his sake but in the end produced great wealth for everyone in America. It is very short sighted to see this as merely some oppression from above. Technology is not class-oriented, it just is, and it happens to be articulated in terms of class because of the mode of social organization we live in.
Is the "Great wealth for everyone in America" in the room with us now?
There's certainly great wealth for ~1000 billionaires, but where I am nobody I know has healthcare, or owns a house for example.
If your argument is that we could be poorer, that's not really productive or useful for people that are struggling now.
Its not possible to stop anymore than the Luddites could stop the industrial revolution in textiles.
Re:Rob Pike Goes Nuclear over GenAI
by spencerflem on Friday December 26, 2025 @11:41AM
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Yeah but you can maybe try. Comments like this make it seem like you don’t care
“But where the danger is, also grows the saving power.”