Re:Hacker News front page now, but the titles are honest
by pkoiralap on Friday December 19, 2025 @11:06AM
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So if we can somehow preserve the signal and make it go round and round, can we get long term storage out of nothing?
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Re:Hacker News front page now, but the titles are honest
by lucaslazarus on Friday December 19, 2025 @11:45AM
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This is possible but you'd have to deploy it right by a black hole: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_sphere
Re:Hacker News front page now, but the titles are honest
by hidroto on Friday December 19, 2025 @01:41PM
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i wonder how sensitive your equipment would need to be to read it from the back scatter off the interstellar medium.
Re:Hacker News front page now, but the titles are honest
by terminalkeys on Friday December 19, 2025 @11:08AM
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Not a scientist, but I assume the signal would degrade or mutate over time due to space radiation and other radio waves.
Re:Hacker News front page now, but the titles are honest
by lxgr on Friday December 19, 2025 @11:26AM
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Electromagnetic waves have perfect/lossless superposition, so radiation can’t really degrade a signal that way.
The big limiting factors are free space path loss and noise.
Re:Hacker News front page now, but the titles are honest
by Y_Y on Friday December 19, 2025 @12:47PM
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That's only true in classical electrodynamics, as it happens. If you're in a very strong B-field like you might find near a compact object you'll get nonlinear QED effects.
You can get a low order correction with Euler-Heisenberg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%E2%80%93Heisenberg_Lagra...
Re:Hacker News front page now, but the titles are honest
by PartiallyTyped on Friday December 19, 2025 @11:14AM
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It should be same logic we use for repeaters, so it'll be fine.
Re:Hacker News front page now, but the titles are honest
by Sesse__ on Friday December 19, 2025 @01:04PM
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The logic we typically use for repeaters (EDFA, erbium-doped fiber amplifiers) for long-distance lines amplifies but does not clean noise (so across the oceans, you are very much bound by SNR). And you need one of them every 80 km or so in typical fiber.
Re:Hacker News front page now, but the titles are honest
by marcosdumay on Friday December 19, 2025 @11:13AM
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"Nothing" is a funny name for an interplanetary communication network.
Re:Hacker News front page now, but the titles are honest
by idiotsecant on Friday December 19, 2025 @11:20AM
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You're still storing your data in the same EM field, just in a slightly different non-inertial reference frame.
Re:Hacker News front page now, but the titles are honest
by nextaccountic on Saturday December 20, 2025 @09:57AM
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