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Re:GPT-5.2 by simonw on Thursday December 11, 2025 @02:01PM (#46235580)
Wow, there's a lot going on with this pelican riding a bicycle: https://gist.github.com/simonw/c31d7afc95fe6b40506a9562b5e83...
Re:GPT-5.2 by Stevvo on Thursday December 11, 2025 @03:40PM (#46236849)
The variance is way too high for this test to have any value at all. I ran it 10 times, and each pelican on a bicycle was a better rendition than that, about half of them you could say were perfect.
Re:GPT-5.2 by golly_ned on Thursday December 11, 2025 @04:40PM (#46237560)
Compared to the other benchmarks which are much more gameable, I trust PelicanBikeEval way more.
Re:GPT-5.2 by prodigycorp on Thursday December 11, 2025 @06:48PM (#46239011)
But, to do what exactly?
Re:GPT-5.2 by refulgentis on Thursday December 11, 2025 @07:32PM (#46239406)
What?
Re:GPT-5.2 by getnormality on Friday December 12, 2025 @01:25AM (#46241401)
Well, the variance is itself interesting.
Re:GPT-5.2 by BeetleB on Thursday December 11, 2025 @03:33PM (#46236751)
They probably saw your complaint that 5.1 was too spartan and a regression (I had the same experience with 5.1 in the POV-Ray version - have yet to try 5.2 out...).
Re:GPT-5.2 by fxwin on Thursday December 11, 2025 @03:21PM (#46236615)
the only benchmark i trust
Re:GPT-5.2 by minimaxir on Thursday December 11, 2025 @02:03PM (#46235608)
Is that the first SVG pelican with drop shadows?
Re:GPT-5.2 by simonw on Thursday December 11, 2025 @02:41PM (#46236157)
No, I got drop shadows from DeepSeek 3.2 recently https://simonwillison.net/2025/Dec/1/deepseek-v32/ (probably others as well.)
Re:GPT-5.2 by tmaly on Thursday December 11, 2025 @02:38PM (#46236119)
seems to be eating something
Re:GPT-5.2 by danans on Thursday December 11, 2025 @02:54PM (#46236291)
Probably a jellyfish. You're seeing the tentacles
Re:GPT-5.2 by belter on Thursday December 11, 2025 @03:08PM (#46236455)
What happens if you ask for a pterodactyl on a motorbike?

Would like to know how much they are optimizing for your pelican....

Re:GPT-5.2 by simonkagedal on Thursday December 11, 2025 @03:30PM (#46236719)
Re:GPT-5.2 by irthomasthomas on Thursday December 11, 2025 @04:56PM (#46237762)
I was expecting to see a pterodactyl :(
Re:GPT-5.2 by AstroBen on Thursday December 11, 2025 @05:03PM (#46237862)
Seems to be getting more aerodynamic. A clear sign of AI intelligence
Re:GPT-5.2 by sroussey on Thursday December 11, 2025 @05:12PM (#46237969)
What is good at SVG design?
Re:GPT-5.2 by azinman2 on Thursday December 11, 2025 @07:53PM (#46239593)
Graphic designers?
Re:GPT-5.2 by culi on Friday December 12, 2025 @01:24AM (#46241396)
Not svg, but basically the same challenge:

https://clocks.brianmoore.com/

Probably Kimi or Deepseek are best

Re:GPT-5.2 by KellyCriterion on Friday December 12, 2025 @05:02AM (#46242586)
Ive not seen any model being good in graphic/svg creation so far - all of the stuff mostly looks ugly and somewhat "synthetic-disorted".

And lately, Claude (web) started to draw ascii charts from one day to another indstead of colorful infographicstyled-images as it did before (they were only slightly better than the ascii charts)

Re:GPT-5.2 by nightshift1 on Thursday December 11, 2025 @06:09PM (#46238631)
benchmarks probably should not be used for so long.
Re:GPT-5.2 by alechewitt on Thursday December 11, 2025 @08:17PM (#46239729)
Nice work on these benchmarks Simon. I’ve followed your blog closely since your great talk at the AI Engineers World Fair, and I want to say thank you for all the high quality content you share for free. It’s become my primary source for keeping up to date.

I’ve been working on a few benchmarks to test how well LLMs can recreate interfaces from screenshots. (https://github.com/alechewitt/llm-ui-challenge). From my basic tests, it seems GPT-5.2 is slightly better at these UI recreations. For example, in the MS Word replica, it implemented the undo/redo buttons as well as the bold/italic formatting that GPT-5.1 handled, and it generally seemed a bit closer to the original screenshot (https://alechewitt.github.io/llm-ui-challenge/outputs/micros...).

In the VS Code test, it also added the tabs that weren’t visible in the screenshot! (https://alechewitt.github.io/llm-ui-challenge/outputs/vs_cod...).

Re:GPT-5.2 by simonw on Thursday December 11, 2025 @08:41PM (#46239894)
That is a very good benchmark. Interesting to see GPT-5.2 delivering on the promise of better vision support there.
Re:GPT-5.2 by tkgally on Thursday December 11, 2025 @10:30PM (#46240577)
I added GPT-5.2 Pro to my pelican-alternatives benchmark for the first three prompts:

Generate an SVG of an octopus operating a pipe organ

Generate an SVG of a giraffe assembling a grandfather clock

Generate an SVG of a starfish driving a bulldozer

https://gally.net/temp/20251107pelican-alternatives/index.ht...

GPT-5.2 Pro cost about 80 cents per prompt through OpenRouter, so I stopped there. I don’t feel like spending that much on all thirty prompts.

Re:GPT-5.2 by smusamashah on Friday December 12, 2025 @03:04AM (#46241918)
Hi, it doesn't have Gemini 3.5 Pro which seems to be the best at this
Re:GPT-5.2 by svantana on Friday December 12, 2025 @06:24AM (#46243080)
That's probably because "Gemini 3.5 Pro" doesn't exist
Re:GPT-5.2 by philipgross on Friday December 12, 2025 @09:25PM (#46251425)
That gallery is an excellent advertisement for Gemini 3.0 Pro.
Re:GPT-5.2 by tootie on Thursday December 11, 2025 @10:40PM (#46240638)
Do you think the big guys are on to your game and have been adding extra pelicans to the training data?