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Re:Apt Rust requirement raises questions by jvanderbot on Tuesday November 25, 2025 @09:58AM (#46046327)
I think you'll experience some pushback on the assertion that that particular quote has a lot of arrogance or disdain in it.

Building large legacy projects can be difficult and tapping into a thriving ecosystem of packages might be a good thing. But it's also possible to have "shiny object" or "grass is greener" syndrome.

Re:Apt Rust requirement raises questions by NetMageSCW on Tuesday November 25, 2025 @10:18AM (#46046558)
“If you maintain a port without a working Rust toolchain, please ensure it has one within the next 6 months, or sunset the port.”

If that’s not arrogant, I don’t know what is.

Re:Apt Rust requirement raises questions by Cthulhu_ on Tuesday November 25, 2025 @10:28AM (#46046689)
Is it arrogant or a clear and straightforward announcement that a Decision has been made and these are the consequences? I'm not seeing any arrogance in the message myself.
Re:Apt Rust requirement raises questions by powerclue on Tuesday November 25, 2025 @10:42AM (#46046859)
How is this arrogant? Are open source developers now responsible for ensuring every fork works with the dependencies and changes they make?

This seems like a long window, given to ports to say, "we are making changes that may impact you, heads up." The options presented are, frankly, the two primary options "add the dependency or tell people you are no longer a current port".

Re:Apt Rust requirement raises questions by jvanderbot on Tuesday November 25, 2025 @10:27AM (#46046670)
"Arrogant" does not mean "forceful" or "assertive" or "makes me angry".

This is forceful, assertive, and probably makes people angry.

Does the speaker have the authority to make this happen? Because if so, this is just a mandate and it's hard to find some kind of moral failing with a change in development direction communicated clearly.

Re:Apt Rust requirement raises questions by bakugo on Tuesday November 25, 2025 @10:01AM (#46046352)
> I think you'll experience some pushback on the assertion that that particular quote has a lot of arrogance or disdain in it.

It's just a roundabout way of saying "anything that isn't running Rust isn't a REAL computer". Which is pretty clearly an arrogant statement, I don't see any other way of interpreting it.

Re:Apt Rust requirement raises questions by simonask on Tuesday November 25, 2025 @10:14AM (#46046495)
Be real for a second. People are arguing against Rust because it supports fewer target architectures than GCC. Which of the target architectures do you believe if important enough that it should decide the future development of apt?
Re:Apt Rust requirement raises questions by bakugo on Tuesday November 25, 2025 @02:35PM (#46049749)
I won't be real for a second, because this isn't about that.

Arguing that support for certain architectures should be removed because they see very little real world use is totally valid. But it's possible to do so in a respectful way, without displaying such utter contept for anyone who might disagree.

Re:Apt Rust requirement raises questions by jvanderbot on Tuesday November 25, 2025 @10:36AM (#46046781)
I read it as a straightforward way of saying "support for a few mostly unused architectures is all that is holding us back from adopting rust, and adopting rust is viewed as a good thing"