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Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by calmingsolitude on Thursday November 13, 2025 @03:26AM (#45912281)
This is because many of the "native" windows components like the start menu are written in react native.
Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by pbhjpbhj on Thursday November 13, 2025 @03:43AM (#45912401)
I thought they just rewrote Start in Rust?
Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by jadamson on Thursday November 13, 2025 @03:41AM (#45912380)
Dear God, I hate the way the Windows 11 Start Menu takes slightly too long to open - long enough that I often accidentally close it again. You can actually watch CPU usage increase if you toggle it.
Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by greggsy on Thursday November 13, 2025 @04:08AM (#45912584)
Never use the start menu anymore with CmdPal in PowerToys.

macOS spoiled me.

Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by noir_lord on Thursday November 13, 2025 @04:53AM (#45912896)
> You can actually watch CPU usage increase if you toggle it.

Not any more, I kept windows 11 around for gaming but I binned the partition, how they managed to make a 7950X3D/7900XTX feel "clunky" is astounding given that I live in KDE which has a reputation for been a "heavy" DE and yet it it feels instantaneously fast in every dimension compared to windows 11.

Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by simoncion on Thursday November 13, 2025 @08:51AM (#45914895)
KDE is a "heavy" DE! Compare its startup time to -say- Windowmaker.

Full disclosure: I use KDE almost exclusively.

Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by ahoka on Thursday November 13, 2025 @04:21AM (#45912680)
Anyone remembers Active Desktop?
Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by habibur on Thursday November 13, 2025 @05:17AM (#45913078)
Windows still has Active Desktop, doesn't it?
Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by pjc50 on Thursday November 13, 2025 @06:07AM (#45913464)
I believe that went out with Internet Explorer. You certainly can't set your desktop to a web page any more.
Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by denverllc on Thursday November 13, 2025 @08:20AM (#45914584)
They main purpose of active desktop was to claim IE was an inextricable part of windows
Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by sunaookami on Thursday November 13, 2025 @04:26AM (#45912715)
This is wrong. The "recommended" section of the start menu is written with React Native but compiled to native XAML and not running web technologies. See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44125217
Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by modo_mario on Thursday November 13, 2025 @04:32AM (#45912754)
Wait.....why develop that small part so differently than the rest?
Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by wongarsu on Thursday November 13, 2025 @04:52AM (#45912884)
Classic case of shipping the org chart

(in case anyone needs a reminder of Microsoft's org chart: https://www.globalnerdy.com/2011/07/03/org-charts-of-the-big...)

Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by simoncion on Thursday November 13, 2025 @08:48AM (#45914867)
> in case anyone needs a reminder of Microsoft's org chart: ...

To be a little glib:

As someone who has worked for a few Big Software Companies, I guarantee that Microsoft's org chart has changed significantly at least once in the last fourteen years.

Re-organizations aren't referred to as "shuffling the deck chairs [on the Titanic]" by the rank and file for no reason, yanno?

Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by nkrisc on Thursday November 13, 2025 @10:12AM (#45915818)
At every large company I worked at, they began planning the next org change right after the last one concluded.
Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by wongarsu on Thursday November 13, 2025 @09:10AM (#45915064)
My impression from the outside is that the biggest change is that there are now a lot more and smaller circles pointing guns at each other

But maybe that impression is wrong and they now cooperate better. After all since some Windows 10 update the Windows Explorer can even create files and folders starting with a dot (which from a kernel, fs and cmd perspective was always valid)

Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by simoncion on Thursday November 13, 2025 @09:17AM (#45915167)
> But maybe that impression is wrong and they now cooperate better.

Based on my experience with Blasted Corporate Hellscapes, I find it very unlikely that they cooperate better. Middle-ish management lives to stab each other in the back, belly, and face.

> ...Windows Explorer can even create files and folders starting with a dot...

That's progress! Does Windows Explorer still shit the bed when you ask it to interact with a file whose name contains the '|' character? That's always been valid in NTFS, and I think is valid in at least a subset of the Windows programming interfaces.

Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by array_key_first on Thursday November 13, 2025 @12:33PM (#45917786)
Kind of related, but a lot of designers only understand a react point of view these days. Which is why you will see react, specifically, turn up in the most random fucking places.

Every place I've worked which did not use react had steady pushback from UI/UX to move to react. It took active resistance to not use react, even though it didn't make any sense to use.

Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by TiredOfLife on Thursday November 13, 2025 @05:23AM (#45913130)
Is that's why on a system where I removed widgets and web search results windows keeps msedgewebview2 active?
Re:Meta replaces WhatsApp for Windows with web wrapper that ... by sunaookami on Thursday November 13, 2025 @06:07AM (#45913463)
I don't think that the activation of this process is tied to the enabled-state of any features and the recommended section/start menu in general does not even use a Webview. It may be active all the time because various parts of the OS use it (I think the settings app for MS account stuff and the Explorer for some Office 365 features?) and it's faster keeping it active instead of starting it constantly.