How the UK lost its shipbuilding industry

Re:How the UK lost its shipbuilding industry by varjag on Monday November 10, 2025 @10:50AM (#45877073)

Aside from you apparently replying to some other comment than mine: Russia honors no treaties or alliances except when it's convenient.

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Re:How the UK lost its shipbuilding industry by kelipso on Monday November 10, 2025 @11:05AM (#45877253)

I am replying to you comment. You are doing the exact same thing again. Saying “Russia honors no treaties or alliances except when it's convenient” is just so you can feel better about whatever. It’s just not how reality and geopolitics work…

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Re:How the UK lost its shipbuilding industry by varjag on Monday November 10, 2025 @01:52PM (#45879381)

I am replying to you comment.

Please. Your reply had nothing to do with the context of my comment. I in fact gave you a benefit of doubt that you're not just a very quantized LLM.

As to the trustworthiness let's tally:

- Khasavyurt Accords. Breached by Russia.

- New START Treaty. Breached by Russia.

- Armenian request under allied auspices of CSTO: not honored by Russia.

- Russia-Ukraine Friendship Treaty, Budapest Memorandum, Border Treaty: breached by Russia.

It's clear you speak very confidently on the subject you have zero clue about.

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Re:How the UK lost its shipbuilding industry by kelipso on Monday November 10, 2025 @03:13PM (#45880354)

You could come up with nitpicky stuff like this for any country. Sure, make yourself feel better about calling people bots and calling Putin crazy, but you’re just living in your own reality at this point.

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Re:How the UK lost its shipbuilding industry by varjag on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @03:50AM (#45885338)

Breaching 6 major peace treaties and alliances (that I just remember of) in span of 30 years is not nitpicking and no you can't come up with this for "any country". I also didn't call Putin crazy anywhere but feel like perhaps you come to the right conclusion yourself here.

China also ain't dumb. It would play along but there is no misunderstanding about the nature of any agreement with Russia.

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Re:How the UK lost its shipbuilding industry by dh2022 on Monday November 10, 2025 @07:00PM (#45882530)

From the book Guns of August, page 106, chapter 10, negotiations re: Turkey’ neutrality in Aug 1914. I will just leave this here:

“On August 13 Foreign Minister Sazonov proposed to France to offer Turkey a solemn guarantee of her territorial integrity and a promise of “great financial advantages at the expense of Germany” in return for her neutrality. He was actually willing to include a promise that Russia would abide by the guarantee “even if we are victorious.”

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Re:How the UK lost its shipbuilding industry by lenkite on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @11:38AM (#45889382)

> Russia honors no treaties or alliances except when it's convenient.

Russia has a strong historical track record of honoring its treaties and commitments with India and many other Asian nations.

Also, one could point at the US and apply your statement more accurately.

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Re:How the UK lost its shipbuilding industry by varjag on Wednesday November 12, 2025 @03:29AM (#45897699)

That's the convenient part. There is no shared border or waters; there is no conflicting interests to make a compromise over on the paper. They are not in a military alliance. There isn't really anything to uphold. And the pivot to India started only with Sino-Soviet split.

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