Is this one of those “what about white guys?” complaints, or am I misreading? Because the implied qualification for “subset of people” is “underrepresented”. Any political/cultural undertones are on you.

Yes. They've got several other comments in this same thread honestly curious why there aren't outreach programs for "conservatives."

As if any of the tech companies would have had even a fraction of their success if they were ran like a Truth Social forum...

You're calling an entire gender "compatible" with what, exactly?

I'm sorry but you're on some bullshit here. Women are half the population but majorly unrepresented in the tech industry because of structural problems that push them out, be that systemic misogyny in our educational systems or things like having a child having an adverse and outsized impact on women's careers. There are plenty of smart women, the problem is the toxicity present in the industry that pushes them out. Having programs that encourage women to get into tech is good because we want the people building our technology to have more diverse views than just well off men from the suburbs. We build better products when more people are involved, period. Stop picking fights with people trying to improve the abysmal representation problems in this industry, it makes you look like an anti-social freak.

> Women are half the population

In the US, this also applies to Republican voters. What about them?

> we want the people building our technology to have more diverse views than just well off men from the suburbs

"Diverse views"? Like you want more people with conservative views? They're also pretty underrepresented in the tech industry, but somehow this isn't a problem for you, right?

> Stop picking fights with people trying to improve the abysmal representation problems in this industry, it makes you look like an anti-social freak.

I'm also trying to improve representation problems in the industry - the overrepresentation of liberal views.

People don't like you because you're an ass hole, not because you're a conservative.

No, you think people are assholes because you are entitled, and think other people are entitled, to the work and effort of other people.

> In the US, this also applies to Republican voters. What about them?

Nobody cares about them. If you want to make a "coding for republicans", then go for it. Nobody is stopping you. You can't pretend people are stopping you so then you can turn around and act like a victim. That's not normal person behavior.

> conservative views? They're also pretty underrepresented in the tech industry

First off, not they're not. Second off - nobody is censoring conservative views.

They ARE censoring obvious racism, sometimes pedophilia, sometimes misogyny. Because those all suck. And when that happens, some conservatives cry. Which doesn't say what you think it says. That does not reflect well on you or the broader ideology.

At the end of the day, if I speak like Hilary Clinton at work, it's perfectly normal. If I speak like Trump and talk about "human garbage" and various brown people eating cats and dogs, I'm probably getting fired and potentially a referral to a psychiatrist.

That's the difference. Not the ideology, the words.

> > Women are half the population

> In the US, this also applies to Republican voters.

No, in fact, in the US, it is closer to true of voters without any partisan qualification than it is to being true of Republican voters.

Are Republican voters/conservatives underrepresented in tech? There seem to be plenty of safe spaces for them.

No, that is LITERALLY ILLEGAL all of your mental gymnastics and utilitarian justifications do not matter.

What is your evidence for this: "... because of structural problems that push them out, be that systemic misogyny in our educational systems ..." , "the toxicity present in the industry that pushes them out ... "?

What alternative reasons have you explored?

They presumably didn’t write an entire literature survey in an HN comment because the CS pipeline problem has been written about so much in the past that it’s reasonable to assume basic familiarity:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/punch-cards-pipel...

I mean there's reams of women in tech or academia who talk about this shit. "I left my PhD program because I was constantly belittled and harassed by my advisor and labmates" "I left my position for a different company because I kept getting passed over for promotion after I had kids" "I switched majors from CS in college because most of my classmates were men who made me uncomfortable" "I was bullied in high school by boys because they thought I didn't get accepted into school based on merit". These are all stories I've heard and there are many of them. Go ask some women in your workplace and I'd bet money they've heard stories like this from other women they know or have experienced it themselves. I'm a man and I'm tired of hearing the contrarian denials regarding these problems from my peers in the industry. Maybe every woman I know in the industry experiencing sexism at some point in their education or career is too anecdotal for you I guess.

I'm sure there's studies in labor and education stats to show some quantitative evidence of this stuff but I'm not going to waste my time proving the obvious to you.

I don't think it's our responsibility to educate you about a phenomenon that has been discussed, analyzed, and written about extensively over the past couple decades. If you haven't seen evidence of this, then you've been living under a rock.

> we want the people building our technology to have more diverse views than just well off men from the suburbs

is this actually true? i think we tend to move people into the suburbs and demand they act like a well off man from the suburbs.

Touché lmao

Some people are disadvantaged and some are not.

There's no St. Jude's Non-Cancer Cancer Research because that would be fucking stupid. Similarly, there is no "coding for white guys". Well, there is, we just call that the entire industry.

Source: I am a white man living in America.

I don't want "coding for white guys", if I could decide, I'd want for example "coding for people who work manual labor jobs living in rural America" (I live in Poland so it's not directly about me).

It seems you're also making a false assumption that since "white guys" make the majority of the industry that means all kinds of "white guys" are properly represented there. But I don't see colors or genders like that.

It’s very frustrating when non-residents or citizens have such strong opinions on US policy like this.

We do have those programs ("coding for people who work manual labor jobs living in rural America") already and we have for quite a long time.

The only people who have the privilege to not see color or gender are those in the majority.

You bet your ass black Americans see color, because they're reminded of it every day. In our policies, communities, and workplaces.

Also: I agree such a program would be great, but it's not an either or type thing. We can, and do, do both.

This crab bucket sort of whiney baby mentality of "daaaad why do THEY get stuff?" is destructive. It's literally anti-solutions.

Making everything worse across the board for everyone might be fair, but it's also shitty and intellectually lazy.