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Re: by tymonPartyLate on Thursday October 23, 2025 @04:20AM (#45679489)
If you want reliable Wifi at home, get yourself Ubiquity access points and throw away TP-Link. The issue is not the protocol. After many years of unplugging and plugging back in my TP-link router I know that they are cursed.
Re: by jonathanlydall on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:49AM (#45680392)
I think it's more a case of don't use cheap consumer grade hardware in any kind of remotely demanding scenario.

I have "enterprise" TP-Link equipment for my house which I bought 3 years ago now and am very happy with it, in particular I'm using:

- 4x EAP245 Access Points

- 1x SG3428 Switch (the APs came with PoE injectors and I wanted a fan-less switch, hence why the switch is not PoE enabled)

I rent out a room on my property and have my tenant on a separate VLAN to the main house. I also have my IoT devices on a separate VLAN.

I use a generic PC with pfSense as my "router".

My only complaint is that their Omada Controller software doesn't want to run as a Windows Service (I'm not interested in trying to manage a Linux box). Fortunately, it's not required at all, but is useful for centralized configuration management and facilitation of handover of WiFi clients between APs.

Before I moved into my current large-ish place, I used "cheap" ISP supplied TP-Link routers with WiFi, and aside from limited speed capabilities, were 100% reliable for me, in particular I used the following two models:

- TL-WR840N

- Archer C20.

I also use a few cheap (but again fully reliable) 5 port and 8 port TP-Link 1GB/s switches, for example under my desk in my office to allow both my laptop and desktop to share the single CAT6 cable to the room.

Before buying the "enterprise" TP-Link equipment I considered Ubiquiti, but the TP-Link stuff was less expensive, I liked the controller being optional and considering all my past TP-Link equipment's reliability was a non-issue, I was happy "to take a risk".

Re: by viraptor on Thursday October 23, 2025 @04:30AM (#45679548)
It's tough. On one hand side, TP-Link has some weird issues. On the other, I spent a while debugging an issue with their engineers and they seem to actually care to improve things. Maybe the lower price is worth it sometimes.
Re: by The_President on Thursday October 23, 2025 @09:17AM (#45681455)
Bought their new long range bluetooth dongle, works better for longer than any other on the market I have tried. Competitively priced.
Re: by nottorp on Thursday October 23, 2025 @05:58AM (#45680133)
Can relate. I went through various consumer ish access points until I got tired of it and splurged on an Ubiquiti.

Haven't had any wifi problems since. To the point I don't remember what wifi standard my home is on :)

Too bad they may or may not have given up on the cloud connectivity requirement. I've been told (even on here) they have, but I've also been told that you can disable it after setup instead of setting up without any stinking cloud.

Say, did Ubiquity stuff work during the AWS outage?

Re: by zuhsetaqi on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:08AM (#45680199)
As far as I know devices like Access Points only need the Controller to be configured or monitored. Once they are configured they work completely without it.
Re: by nottorp on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:45AM (#45680369)
What does that mean, that the controller won't work without a cloud account? :)

It doesn't really matter which part in the chain requires the stinking cloud as long as they sneak it in somewhere.

Speaking of which, I just bought a Razer mouse again because I've read they gave up on the login requirement for configuring your blinkenlights. But they didn't. They invented a 'guest login' instead.

Burned twice so far.

Re: by spockz on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:54AM (#45680417)
You can run the controller locally or from the cloud. When it is running locally you have the option to tunnel to it through the cloud. It runs completely locally.

AFAICT, the controller is needed for fast roaming of clients.

Re: by nottorp on Thursday October 23, 2025 @07:00AM (#45680456)
> When it is running locally you have the option to tunnel to it through the cloud.

So can I just ignore that option or do they make me register to the stinking cloud just in case?

IIRC the controller is needed to configure your AP anyway when you first set it up.

Re: by hiimkeks on Thursday October 23, 2025 @08:51AM (#45681226)
I have the UAP-AC-LR and if you only need basic AP functionality you can even configure it from the phone (no cloud). 99% sure no cloud stuff is needed when self-hosting the controller. May have changed since then, though.
Re: by spockz on Friday October 24, 2025 @03:15PM (#45698119)
Yes you can just not enable it. It is disabled by default. Maybe if you register everything through the app on your phone you need to be a bit careful. I think that makes it easy to enable the cloud tunnelling.

Indeed. You need the controller running first before you can configure AP, Switches, and gateways.

Re: by nottorp on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @05:06AM (#45744393)
Lots of ifs in both answers :)
Re: by XorNot on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:10AM (#45680212)
My Ubiquity stuff worked fine the whole time, but I do have the Dream Machine as my router/video surveillance hub.

None of my ubiquity stuff uses their cloud stuff at all.

Re: by PeterStuer on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:35AM (#45680324)
I use TP-link switches exclusively as they turned out far more reliable than any other I had.

For wifi I have been using ASUS's AI Mesh. Not that impressed tbh so looking to change to something else in the next upgrade cycle.

Re: by casept on Thursday October 23, 2025 @05:58AM (#45680132)
I've always had good experiences with TP-Link, just not their stock firmware. They're cheap and reliable OpenWRT devices.
Re: by jansper39 on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:00AM (#45680144)
Better yet, buy actual enterprise gear even if it's a generation behind. You can find decent Aruba, Ruckus and Cisco kit on eBay going for decent prices.
Re: by hbarka on Thursday October 23, 2025 @04:58AM (#45679743)
What I have read is that with Wifi-7 (MLO, dynamic channels), TP-Link is much improved.
Re: by andreashaerter on Thursday October 23, 2025 @04:24AM (#45679513)
But: the Omada gear is awesome. I threw away all of Ubiquity stuff and can operate without cloud.
Re: by bdunks on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:13AM (#45680224)
Agreed. I have 4 Omada APs in my house — 3 wired PoE and 1 mesh.

I haven’t thought about it since I set it up, three years ago. 100% reliability, seamless handoff between APs.

Re: by ThatPlayer on Thursday October 23, 2025 @04:38AM (#45679613)
Yeah I was gonna say, I upgraded from my older Unifi stuff to TP-Link Omada and have had no issues.
Re: by dgroshev on Thursday October 23, 2025 @05:09AM (#45679823)
Or better yet, Aruba Instant On. Enterprise hardware for SOHO money, truly plug and play, rock solid, no tinkering involved (which can be both good and bad depending on one's goals).
Re: by flanked-evergl on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:51AM (#45680402)
I bought a UniFi Dream Router 7 some months ago, very happy with it so far.
Re: by glimshe on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:21AM (#45680264)
I now run a TP-Link free household. I was disappointed with every one of my TPL purchases over the years, both on routers and client adapters.
Re: by booleandilemma on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:08AM (#45680194)
I had a tp-link router for a few years and never had any problems with it.
Re: by gambiting on Thursday October 23, 2025 @04:58AM (#45679742)
Anecdote time - I've had their BE550 Wifi 7 router for over a year now and it's been rock solid. Easily does 2Gbps over wifi, never had to reset it once despite having 40+ devices connected to it all the time, the 4x 2.5Gbps ports are super useful.....it is one of their more expensive devices so maybe that's why, but generally it's been very very solid.
Re: by argsnd on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:32AM (#45680306)
I own two consumer-grade Deco XE75 access points which I purchased several years ago as the most cost-effective 6E compatible access points available. They have proven to be exceptionally reliable.

Although I have previously encountered significant issues with WiFi, I now do not see a need to replace these devices despite the availability of WiFi 7.

Re: by SkyPuncher on Thursday October 23, 2025 @09:08AM (#45681375)
My deco seems to be really poor at picking a channel at boot up. When I have performance issues running the optimizer almost always moves it to a different channel and solves my issues.
Re: by argsnd on Thursday October 23, 2025 @10:12AM (#45682020)
I just ran the optimiser after reading your post and it changed the 2.4GHz channel - I think the main reason I've been so happy is that the laptops and smartphones I primarily use support 6GHz where there is no interference and channel selection doesn't matter.
Re: by SkyPuncher on Thursday October 23, 2025 @09:07AM (#45681358)
Anecdotally, I switched from Ubiquiti to TP-Link and am very happy with the decision.

Ubiquity stuff was giving me constant buffer bloat issues and it was a pain to do basic configuration for. Just too many options.

TP-LInk generally works just fine as long as the WiFi channel is clear.