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Re:The IDEs we had 30 years ago ... and we lost by karmakaze on Saturday October 18, 2025 @11:21AM (#45628066)
I wasn't paying attention to when 30 years ago actually was...

So disappointing to expect a GUI Smalltalk System Browser and seeing DOS TUIs.

And then delight recalling Turbo C/Pascal and MS C 4.0 with CodeView that even worked in 43 or 50 line modes.

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Re:The IDEs we had 30 years ago ... and we lost by jll29 on Saturday October 18, 2025 @12:00PM (#45628352)
Yes, me too, I was expecting either Smalltalk or LISP machine GUIs.

Having said that, some old TUIs were clearer and faster even on weaker hardware. This should be a lesson for us today. Color transitions and animated icons flying over the desktop are NOT what I need, but speed, clarity, and discoverability of more rarely used functionality are vital.

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Re:The IDEs we had 30 years ago ... and we lost by igouy on Saturday October 18, 2025 @12:44PM (#45628626)
May 1988 -- Smalltalk/V 286 -- on IBM-PC, PS/2 or compatible, with an 80286 or 80386

"INTRODUCTION TO THE SMALLTALK/V 286 ENVIRONMENT"

http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks/SmalltalkVTutorial...

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Re:The IDEs we had 30 years ago ... and we lost by pjmlp on Saturday October 18, 2025 @01:22PM (#45628904)
That was my introduction to Smalltalk.
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Re:The IDEs we had 30 years ago ... and we lost by igouy on Saturday October 18, 2025 @01:32PM (#45628998)
ditto

So much better than the TUI Smalltalk/V

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Re:The IDEs we had 30 years ago ... and we lost by NetMageSCW on Monday October 20, 2025 @10:10AM (#45644115)
Methods.
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Re:The IDEs we had 30 years ago ... and we lost by igouy on Monday October 20, 2025 @02:05PM (#45647091)
Yes. I'd seen Methods a year earlier and chose to make a prototype with Lotus 123 instead. Then Smalltalk/V 286 became available.
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Re:The IDEs we had 30 years ago ... and we lost by bryantnyc on Saturday October 18, 2025 @11:26PM (#45631896)
Anyone else on here recall IBM VisualAge for Smalltalk -> VAST, or Cincom Smalltalk?
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