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Re:America is getting an AI gold rush instead of a factory boom by deadbabe on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @01:43PM (#45582759)
Once you can run a GPT5 level LLM locally on a device, it’s over. All this mighty infrastructure is no longer any more impressive than a top of the line 2013 Mac Pro in 2025. I think we’re 10 years away from that.
Re:America is getting an AI gold rush instead of a factory boom by gmadsen on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @02:19PM (#45583104)
10 years from now, the capabilities of gpt5 will be as relevant to AI as Atari is to modern gaming
Re:America is getting an AI gold rush instead of a factory boom by GoatInGrey on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @02:36PM (#45583296)
Unless GPT 5 is more like the PlayStation 5 and not the Atari 2600.
Re:America is getting an AI gold rush instead of a factory boom by bigbuppo on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @02:49PM (#45583412)
So people will be paying money for the nostalgia of ChatGPT after it dies? That tracks.
Re:America is getting an AI gold rush instead of a factory boom by culll_kuprey on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @07:46PM (#45586335)
Walmart will sell cheap Chinese emulations to hop on the nostalgia train too.
Re:America is getting an AI gold rush instead of a factory boom by deadbabe on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @05:15PM (#45585015)
I doubt it. Newer state of the art models might be a little better, but not enough to justify paying $1000/month for the average person or employee.

If you can get a GPT5 level AI, locally and privately, for just the cost of electricity, why would you bother with anything else? If it can’t do something, you’d just outsource that one prompt to a cloud based AI.

The vast majority of your prompts will be passing through a local LLM first in 2035, and you might rarely need to touch an agent API. So what does that mean for the AI industry?

Re:America is getting an AI gold rush instead of a factory boom by hadlock on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @02:34PM (#45583278)
Consumer devices are already available that offer 128gb specifically labeled for AI use. I think server side AI will still exist for IoT devices, but I agree, 10 years seems pretty reasonable timelie to buy a GTX 5080-sized card that will have 1TB of memory, with the ability to pair it with another one for 2TB. For local, non-distributed use, GPUs are already more than capable of doing 20+ tokens/s, we're mostly waiting on 512gb devices to drop in price, and "free" LLMs to get better.
Re:America is getting an AI gold rush instead of a factory boom by robocat on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @03:49PM (#45583976)
Are we constrained by RAM production?

RAM Price per GB Projected to decline at 15% per annum.

That's quite a few years before you'll get double the RAM.

For mobile I'm guessing power constraints matter too.

Re:America is getting an AI gold rush instead of a factory boom by hadlock on Thursday October 16, 2025 @03:24PM (#45609617)
My guess was that nvidia is limiting memory size on consumer cards to avoid cannibalizing their commercial/industrial sales. I see no reason why a 5060 or 5070 can't come with 64/128/512gb memory outside of intentional decisions to not support those memory sizes; I don't need a 5090 as I don't need more than ~20-40 tokens/s as a 1-4 user household system
Re:America is getting an AI gold rush instead of a factory boom by lysace on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @02:03PM (#45582957)
Have you tried the reasoning mode of Gemini Pro 2.5? https://aistudio.google.com/

It gives me the chills, thinking about when it has 1000x cheaper ~GPU compute.

Re:America is getting an AI gold rush instead of a factory boom by GoatInGrey on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @02:37PM (#45583308)
This a hosted model with closed weights, though.
Re:America is getting an AI gold rush instead of a factory boom by lysace on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @04:13PM (#45584220)
Yes. Not the point.