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Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by ch4s3 on Saturday October 11, 2025 @12:27AM (#45546568)
The only thing less appealing to me than reading thiel’s crazed millenarian ramblings is reading the guardian’s hot takes about thiel’s ramblings.
Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by Animats on Saturday October 11, 2025 @01:05AM (#45546721)
Yes.

It wasn't a "secret meeting". It was a meeting of the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco, which anyone can join for about $90. I used to have a membership. Here's the event.[1] There is a recording. Here is the MP3 file.[2] Transcription of the first 30 minutes (of 67) via free web site. [3]

Notes:

On being a VC:

When you invest other people's money, you're trying to always do two things. Number one, get good returns. Number two, look like you're going to get good returns. And there's a surprisingly large disconnect between those two things.

So I like long term because again, that's less competitive. It can't be super long term. This was always the disconnect between, say, Japanese and US approaches to business. US businesses we always critique for being on this quarterly earnings cycle. Japan argued in the 80s that it had much longer time horizons. And there's a point where long term can be just a euphemism for procrastination or for avoiding accountability. But yeah, I think in its best form there are definitely things that take five or ten years to build and we should be building more of those.

On education:

My claim has been that over the last 40 years there's generally been less innovation in the world of atoms. It's not been a good idea to go into all the engineering disciplines that had to do with atoms. It was not a good idea to become a nuclear engineer, a mechanical engineer, a chemical engineer, an aeroastro engineer. And so we had less innovation in areas like energy or transportation.

Not seeing the "antichrist lectures". Sounds like standard VC speak. Am I missing something here?

Was there some other talk, also held at the Commonwealth Club, at which Thiel spoke?

[1] https://www.commonwealthclub.org/events/2014-09-30/peter-thi...

[2] https://audio.commonwealthclub.org/audio/podcast/cc_20140930...

[3] https://audiototext.com/?order_id=e0a6efe8-c656-4746-b93c-f4...

Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by blast on Saturday October 11, 2025 @01:07AM (#45546734)
It's a different event: more recent, more lectures, more antichrist. Oh, and more secret.

https://fortune.com/2025/09/02/peter-thiel-antichrist-lectur...

Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by Animats on Saturday October 11, 2025 @01:09AM (#45546747)
Oh, I found an old talk from 2014. Sorry.
Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by ch4s3 on Saturday October 11, 2025 @07:08AM (#45548192)
Yeah, that’s not what I was talking about.
Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by crtasm on Saturday October 11, 2025 @06:43AM (#45548062)
Did the submitted link change? It doesn't contain either secret or meeting.
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Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by systemstops on Saturday October 11, 2025 @01:13AM (#45546767)
Calling people "Silicon Valley freaks" is really trashy.
Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by ggm on Saturday October 11, 2025 @01:43AM (#45546889)
I agree it's unkind. And I am not here to defend the abuse Thiel received over his sexuality or before that the overt bullying I read he underwent at university. But, how exactly do you characterise the super rich, anti unionist, hard right Christian, or some of the other more out there sub cultures in the modern day tech scene? The food-as-fuel soylent eaters, the people trying to live forever, the believers in the singularity.. calling people "freaks" is trashy, but is that the worst objection you've got?
Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by systemstops on Sunday October 12, 2025 @12:30AM (#45555235)
It's fine it this was some blog, but this is supposed to be "serious" journalism. It comes off as childish and unprofessional.
Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by ch4s3 on Saturday October 11, 2025 @07:09AM (#45548196)
Right the Guardian is pretty crappy and Thiel’s new messianic nonsense is insufferable.
Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by culll_kuprey on Saturday October 11, 2025 @02:14PM (#45551331)
You have to call a spade a spade. The truth is trashy to many.
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Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by andsoitis on Saturday October 11, 2025 @01:05AM (#45546723)
> I'd rather read the guardian; at least they'll be informed. Thiel is speaking from absolute ignorance. The antichrist as a figure is an evangelical creation that's about 150 years old, for example

You, my friend, are ill-informed. The idea of the antichrist has deep and complex origins that developed over centuries, blending Jewish apocalyptic expectations, early Christian theology, and later medieval interpretation.

Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by Hansappreciator on Saturday October 11, 2025 @01:09AM (#45546743)
It's not in the Bible. The antichrist as a deceiving figure, a false jesus, as part of / a requirement of the "end of days", is an evangelical creation.

I can point you to Bible scholars talking about this topic if you're interested. There are many accessible videos on youtube, for example, from informed Bible scholars - of which Thiel absolutely is not.

Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by andsoitis on Saturday October 11, 2025 @01:14AM (#45546771)
> It's not in the Bible.

John 2:18 — “Children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that Antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come.”

1 John 4:3 — “This is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.”

Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by greyadept on Saturday October 11, 2025 @01:49AM (#45546912)
Specifically, G500 is the Strong’s Number for “antichristos”: https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g500/kjv/tr/0-1/
Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by Hansappreciator on Sunday October 12, 2025 @02:20AM (#45555752)
Guess you are not interested.

Thanks Peter, brave try

Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by UncleMeat on Saturday October 11, 2025 @07:58AM (#45548463)
Daub is a professor at Stanford and a has written a lot about silicon valley and its influence on broader culture. He's worth a read.
Re:Peter Thiel's antichrist lectures reveal more about him t... by ch4s3 on Saturday October 11, 2025 @06:42PM (#45553284)
> Here’s a man who, together with a couple of fellow Silicon Valley freaks, helped return a sundowning caudillo to a presidency he is obviously unsuited for, and who uses the awesome might of the US government to remake society and the world.

This sentence is such an acronym to taste and the English language that it may be hard to get through. Thought I do appreciate the offhand comparisons to Peron. I guess I’ll struggle through it.