Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by VirgilShelton on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @07:49PM (#45510395)

I never understood the worry about being surveilled, I have nothing to hide and could care less if a camera watches me 24/7.

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Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by slashdev on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @08:03PM (#45510473)

Until the politicians want to come after you for posts you make on HN, or any other infraction they decide is now an issue.

History is littered with the literal bones of people who thought they had nothing to fear from the state. The state is not your friend, and is not looking out for you.

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Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by serf on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @07:56PM (#45510443)

go watch any movie about a panopticon for the (overdiscussed) side-effects of a surveillance state.

Fiction works, but if you want to spend the evening depressed then go for any East/West Germany (true) stories.

For it or against surveillance and I can understand, but just not understanding the issue? No excuses -- personal surveillance for the sake of the state is one of the most discussed social concepts in the world.

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Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by ericd on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @10:21PM (#45511352)

The Lives of Others is a great one about the Stasi.

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Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by BlaDeKke on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @07:55PM (#45510436)

I don’t have a problem with the camera as much as with the system behind it.

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Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by insamniac on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @07:53PM (#45510416)

Nothing to hide for now.

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Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by DonHopkins on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @08:01PM (#45510461)

RTSP feed please!

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Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by alvah on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @08:19PM (#45510590)

The number of people who cling to this view is frankly astonishing. History books are still a thing, right?

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Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by drumttocs8 on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @08:29PM (#45510633)

You have nothing to hide given the current, reasonable definition of crime.

What if that changes?

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Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by CamperBob2 on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @08:35PM (#45510684)

You have no idea if you have anything to hide or not. It's not your call, and never has been.

https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp...

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Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by reaperducer on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @08:39PM (#45510707)

I have nothing to hide

Great! Then you don't mind telling us your email password!

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Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by hn_go_brrrrr on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @10:48PM (#45511523)

Presumably not. Whether he has any acts to keep secret is not relevant to whether he'd like to have any money left in his bank account tomorrow.

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Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by SXX on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @08:45PM (#45510750)

You have nothing to hide until you automatically marked for whatever and then judged also automatically by a buggy hallucinating AI overlord.

Might be because pattern on your face or T-shirt match something bad.

And this kind of stuff already happened in UK even before "AI craze". Hundreds of people been imprisoned because of faulty accounting system:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal

"Computer says you go to prison"!

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Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by dang on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @11:43PM (#45511835)

Please don't rewrite your comment like this once it has replies. It deprives the replies of their original context, making the thread less readable.

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Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by Spooky23 on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @09:48PM (#45511166)

Those cameras aren’t usually easily or cheaply adapted to surveillance. Most are really simple and don’t have things like reliable time sync. Also, road jurisdictions are really complex and surveillance requires too much coordination. State, county, town, city all have different bureaucratic processes and funding models.

Surveillance is all about Flock. The feds are handing out grants to everyone, and the police drop the things everywhere. They can locate cars, track routine trips, and all sorts of creepy stuff.

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Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by khm on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @11:53PM (#45511881)

In my city, cameras for traffic light control are on almost every signalized intersection, and the video is public record and frequently used to review collisions. These cameras are extremely cheaply and easily adapted to surveillance. Public records are public records statewide.

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Re:Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model by gxs on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @11:30PM (#45511768)

With all due respect, you are kidding yourself if you think those cameras aren’t used for surveillance/ logging

They don’t have to be “adapted” to surveillance - they are made with that in mind

Obviously older generations of equipment aren’t included here - so technically you may be correct for old/outdated equipment installed areas that aren’t of interest

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