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Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by calebm on Friday September 19, 2025 @02:14AM (#45298462)
On a related note: I also think looking at the sun is healthy for our eyes. I've been getting more sun-in-my-eyes exposure, and at the last optometrist I had, he was surprised to find that my vision improved since my last checkup.
Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by quaintdev on Friday September 19, 2025 @02:21AM (#45298491)
Anyone thinking of doing this, don't. There's a reason we don't directly look at solar eclipse. Here's a excerpt from [1]

> Usually we close our eyes in reflex due to intense light from the Sun, but on day of an eclipse, the intensity of sunlight is decreased and we can view the Sun through naked eyes. While we watch a solar eclipse without any protection to our eyes, the ultraviolet rays penetrate our eyes and cause retinal burn, leading to loss of central vision.

[1]: https://www.indiatoday.in/science/story/partial-solar-eclips...

Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by yunwal on Friday September 19, 2025 @02:37AM (#45298590)
The comment above you said nothing about a solar eclipse
Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by Arainach on Friday September 19, 2025 @03:31AM (#45298906)
In a Solar Eclipse you're getting a tiny fraction of the sun's energy and it is still enough to very quickly cause long-term physical damage to your eyes. Looking at the sun during not an eclipse is even worse.
Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by esseph on Friday September 19, 2025 @03:37AM (#45298943)
Where the fuck are these people coming from???
Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by Arainach on Friday September 19, 2025 @02:02PM (#45304570)
We are truly in the dumbest timeline.
Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by codr7 on Friday September 19, 2025 @03:00AM (#45298708)
So suddenly during an eclipse, your eyes have no idea what's painful/harmful anymore? Trust your experience, it's the closest you're ever going to get to truth.
Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by avian on Friday September 19, 2025 @02:49AM (#45298641)
Recently I've received an email from my eye specialist addressed to all her patients urging people not to look at the sun. At the same time I've also seen a similar public warning published in local media.

Apparently there has been an sharp rise in people coming in with retinal damage from staring at the sun. They didn't go into details why someone would do that, but reading this on HN I can start to guess.

Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by codr7 on Friday September 19, 2025 @02:59AM (#45298695)
Until I see some definite proof, I'm going to put this in the FUD box.

There's seems to be a concerted effort at making people afraid of the sun. My guess is because the sun fixes a lot of problems, and problems mean profit.

Seriously, take a step back. If spending time in / looking at the sun was dangerous we wouldn't be here.

Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by mikestew on Friday September 19, 2025 @02:26PM (#45304818)
My guess is because the sun fixes a lot of problems, and problems mean profit.

And there ya go, the rallying cry of every conspiracy theorist: "They don't want you to know, because money!"

Seriously, take a step back.

Yeah, seriously.

Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by bob1029 on Friday September 19, 2025 @02:26AM (#45298528)
I've found the same with direct sunlight exposure. My distance vision is much sharper if I've been outside a lot recently. It seems similar to how exercise works elsewhere in the body. You can definitely get a neuromuscular reaction if the incident angle of the sunlight is direct enough. The trick (as with all forms of exercise) is moderation.
Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by harperlee on Friday September 19, 2025 @03:02AM (#45298720)
Might it be that when outside you tend to look farther than when inside? So distance vision gets used more and body adapts. Similar to how kids that spend time outside are less shortsighted.
Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by imp0cat on Friday September 19, 2025 @03:08AM (#45298751)
Also, bright light will help the eye to focus. It's the same principle as if you were using a camera with a small aperture (and larger DOF, keeping more things in focus).
Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by amanaplanacanal on Friday September 19, 2025 @02:08PM (#45304633)
I'm fairly certain I saw an article recently on HN that claimed it was not the distance focusing which helped but just the exposure to brighter light.

Edit: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31722876/

Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by bloak on Friday September 19, 2025 @03:40AM (#45298954)
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bates_method#Sunning

Aldous Huxley was taken in, unfortunately: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Seeing

I would guess it's dangerous nonsense, though there are plausible claims that shortsightedness is associated with not spending much time outside as a child so perhaps there's a slight link with something that isn't nonsense.

Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by spacechild1 on Friday September 19, 2025 @04:11AM (#45299191)
> there are plausible claims that shortsightedness is associated with not spending much time outside as a child

AFAIK that has nothing to do with the sun but rather with looking at things at a larger distance than at home.

Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by bloak on Friday September 19, 2025 @04:42AM (#45299379)
That seems likely.

An obvious thing perhaps worth mentioning: if you're shortsighted (or longsighted) then you see better in bright sunlight because the iris closes, giving you greater depth of field, so that might make people think/feel that sunlight "cures" myopia.

(On the other hand, if you have excellent eyesight then you see better in less bright conditions because your vision is being limited by diffraction at the aperture.)

Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by amanaplanacanal on Friday September 19, 2025 @02:11PM (#45304664)
Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by herbst on Friday September 19, 2025 @03:07AM (#45298745)
Is this some kind of weird meta joke or are people actually arguing about staring into the sun in 2025?
Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by esseph on Friday September 19, 2025 @03:38AM (#45298947)
An age of unenlightenment!
Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by blooalien on Friday September 19, 2025 @04:43AM (#45299387)
> Is this some kind of weird meta joke or are people actually arguing about staring into the sun in 2025?

Why not? People are still arguing in 2025 that the vast majority of the world's climate scientists are wrong about climate change, and there are even some who unironically argue that the Earth is flat. Science is dead. Long live "Whatever I want to believe is true and you're all wrong!"

Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by calebm on Friday September 19, 2025 @01:12PM (#45304035)
So just to clarify - yes, I do think looking at the sun directly for very short periods is good (especially if it's lower on the horizon). But overall, what I as trying to get at is that being outside and getting the bright light of the sun on your eyes is helpful. The best way to do this is on the water. When you look at the sun reflecting off the water, you are getting the bright light, but because the water is reflecting it, and the waves are constantly changing the angles, the sun like gets spread evenly over your eyes.

For the naysayers, if looking at the sun is so bad, why is it not considered bad to look at the sun's reflection on the water? Additionally, when the sun is low, if you look at the brightness of the sunlight, it is less bright than some artificial light sources, and doesn't hurt to look at. How could this be bad?

Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by htek on Friday September 19, 2025 @02:17PM (#45304730)
IIRC, reflection of the sun off water is 5% when directly overhead to about 65% when at a glancing angle (low on the horizon). I prefer to close my eyes and aim my face at the sun for about 10 minutes a day if I'm working indoors all day plus whatever incidental sunlight I get. I have SAD during the winter months and use a full-spectrum lamp, then.

People who spend more time in the sun have a low-moderate risk of melanoma, but higher risk of other skin cancers, vs those who spend more time indoors having a lower risk of non-melanoma skin cancer and a moderate-higher risk of melanoma cancer.

Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by Arainach on Friday September 19, 2025 @02:01PM (#45304560)
>why is it not considered bad to look at the sun's reflection on the water?

Who said it's not? It may hurt you as fast but it's still bad for you.

https://www.aao.org/eye-health/diseases/photokeratitis-snow-...

Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by calebm on Friday September 19, 2025 @04:31PM (#45306186)
Good point. It's all about balance though. People have been riding on boats on water for a long long time (most of it without the invention of sunglasses). And similar to the truck drivers who drive hours with one side exposed, or people who sunbathe a bunch - that is unbalanced. Staring at the sun at full brightness would be unbalanced. But I think never looking at it is also unbalanced. You can look at it, but keep your eyes moving - don't focus and stare at it for seconds (unless it's really low on the horizon, and then I think it is okay to stare at the sun).
Re:The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of ... by jraby3 on Friday September 19, 2025 @02:26PM (#45304817)
I don't think it's at all healthy to look directly at the sun.

But I have noticed that my eyes get weaker after spending a lot of time indoors, like if I'm sick. Getting enough time in sunlight seems to be heavily correlated with better eyesight, both in my personal experience fighting farsightedness as a man in his 50s and with studies done on children regarding nearsightedness.