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Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @07:23PM (#45269586)
> that was one of the biggest campaign points and voter sentiment on which people flipped to Red

This is nonsense outside Michigan. And to the extent this happened, I'd have to say pro-Palestinian voters in swing states casting with the guy who initiated the Muslim ban and recognised Jerusalem as Israel's capital essentially communicated that they were fine throwing millions of people in the Middle East under the bus to satisfy their vanity.

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by abustamam on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @07:29PM (#45269655)
Even Wayne County, Michigan, which has Dearborn, stayed blue.

Though I was honestly surprised at how much of my Muslim community was so anti-Harris that they voted for Trump. Harris may be pro-Israel, but Trump is anti-almost everything else we stand for.

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @07:32PM (#45269677)
> how much of my Muslim community was so anti-Harris that they voted for Trump

I'm honestly split between pro-Palestinian Arab-American Trump voters and soybean-farming Trump voters as the stupidest voting blocks of 2024. Not only are you helping put someone in power who is so obviously going to work against your interests. You've also removed yourself from the other party's table where your issue might have gained priority down the road.

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by cgio on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @08:16PM (#45269999)
Maybe the thinking is that if you stop waiting for your turn and remove yourself from the table, someone will move your issue up the road to get you back to the table.
Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @09:43PM (#45270588)
> if you stop waiting for your turn and remove yourself from the table, someone will move your issue up the road to get you back to the table

This doesn’t work unless you have the numbers to field your own candidate.

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by abustamam on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @09:21PM (#45270434)
Tbh we are all victims of America's shitty two party system and voting system, and just reflective of how much power political pundits and influencers have. I think ranked choice voting would make fewer people vote against their own self interests.
Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @09:44PM (#45270594)
> ranked choice voting would make fewer people vote against their own self interests

Not for these groups. They wouldn’t rank something that benefits their interests because they’re not voting for anything; they’re voting against. That generally doesn’t work in democracies, which require engagement and compromise.

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by master_crab on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @10:18PM (#45270816)
There is such a thing as sitting-it-out. People didn’t necessarily vote for Trump. They just didn’t vote for Harris. And that is exactly what the voting record shows: votes for Democrats dropped significantly between 2020 and 2024.
Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by lightedman on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @12:04AM (#45271532)
"votes for Democrats dropped significantly between 2020 and 2024."

For, or from? this is an important distinction to make.

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by master_crab on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @02:01PM (#45279181)
Both.