That are Charlie's words from 2023. He himself was claiming that some gun deaths are worth it so I am sure he'd be okay with this one as well.
Meanwhile, I've been reminded by your comment that people like you will celebrate the deaths of people they disagree with politically, which makes me less likely to support gun control. With neighbors like you, I'm going to hang onto them. The irony of people like you is your perceived moral superiority warps you into being a bad person.
"I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."
The fact that Charlie Kirk was murdered is reprehensible and sets an ill precedent for democracy. That is plainly apparent to anyone with a vested interest in peaceful political discourse. Washington DC has come together across the aisle to condemn this violence.The legacy Kirk leaves behind isn't incorrect or worth discarding; some violence is a part of any collective society. But at what point does the deal stop being prudent? How many politicians, schoolkids and religious groups have to be shot up before we reassess our laws? If we never stop, then the cycle is always waiting to start up again. The tinderbox can be lit for any reason, and give any administration just cause for martial law and "emergency powers" abuse.
In normal countries, which the US isn't, it's much harder to obtain a gun license, and some arms types are impossible to own for the general population, which translates to a smaller portion of the population owning guns.
Here are some statistics on gun ownership: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_g...
And here is the list of mass shootings in the US (120 guns per 100 people): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_...
Vs mass shootings in country with normal gun laws and low percentage of gun ownership (2.7 per 100) like the Netherlands: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mass_shootings_in_the...
I mean if you can't see the correlation, that's absolutely fine. You stick to your guns. Pun very much intended.
> Meanwhile, I've been reminded by your comment that people like you will celebrate the deaths of people they disagree with politically
That's great! I am being reminded by the hypocrisy of the right who cry the one time one of their fascist friends gets killed but will happily cheer on when somebody who disagrees with them politically gets hurt. Let's look at Charlie Kirk himself:
- "Somebody should have taken care of it the way we used to do in the 1950 and 1960" on Trans people: https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1626672034859163648/pu/...
- "He was a scumbag ... unworthy of the attention." on George Floyd. https://www.telegraphindia.com/world/five-things-charlie-kir... I happen to think the same about Charlie.
- "We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s." White supremacy sure sounds fun. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-charlie-kirk-once-22340...
- "George Floyd didn't die because of the police officer. He died largely because of a drug overdose." https://www.distractify.com/p/what-did-charlie-kirk-say-abou...
- "Gay people should be stoned to death. Just saying." https://x.com/patriottakes/status/1800678317030564306
> The irony of people like you is your perceived moral superiority warps you into being a bad person.
I can say the same about Charlie and his Bible quoting shit. I don't see him and the political right crying about the madman attacking Pelosi's husband, nor for the senseless killings of Melissa Hortman and her husband. Which, following your logic, makes the political right bad people. And I agree with your logic.
Charlie himself was fine with some gun deaths, in his own words, which I quote again: "It’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year, so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.". If the man, the legend himself, is fine with some gun deaths, and finds them worthy, who are we to disagree with him and his great legacy of trans-hate, pro-guns, white supremacy and unquestioning support for the genocidal state of Israel?
> Your comment is essentially saying he deserved it, and that you see some form of cosmic justice here.
I don't think he deserved it, nobody deserves to be shot. But considering Charlie's views on empathy, it'd be an insult to his memory for me to feel empathy for him, so by feeling 0 empathy for him I honor his legacy: "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage." https://x.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1580241307515383808
Do I find Charlie's death hilarious considering his stance on gun laws? Yes. In fact, I think maybe we should come up to something similar to the Herman Cain award, but for gun lovers.
Do I think he was a bad man who stoked hatred and division and himself multiple times advocated for violence? 100 times yes.
No one actively made fun of the deaths of school kids or anyone on the left - the Hortmanns or the injury to Paul Pelosi. No one actually celebrates those tragedies.
And yet here you are actively saying you find Charlie’s death hilarious. This is shameful and no sane person should feel happy that a person who advocated for free speech and nothing else has been assassinated.
Also please read the guidelines that @dang has posted at the very beginning of this thread.
May God help you find more peace and less hatred.
> No one actually celebrates those tragedies.
Yeah, some of the right wing figures outright questioned whether these things happened:
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/09/alex-jones-asks-sup...
Walking human expired cheese Donald Trump Jr. shared a pic of Paul Pelosi Halloween costume which does count as making fun. But freedom of speech, right?
https://time.com/6226946/paul-pelosi-attack-gop-response-pol...
And Charlie himself on the Pelosi case wanted a patriot to "Bail out" the assailant: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/charlie-kirk-once-called...
> This is shameful and no sane person should feel happy that a person who advocated for free speech and nothing else has been assassinated.
I don't feel happy. Nobody should be shot. However, Charlie did advocate for white supremacy: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-charlie-kirk-once-22340... and did say that "Empathy is a made-up term" https://x.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1580241307515383808 so I feel 0 empathy for him, to honor his legacy of hating empathy and embracing gun deaths as worth it.
> And yet here you are actively saying you find Charlie’s death hilarious
I don't celebrate Charlie getting shot. Nobody deserves to get shot in the first place. Hell, nobody should own guns in the first place. But Charlie? He thought otherwise. He thought "some gun deaths are worth it" (Charlie's own words), and who am I to doubt him?
A guy saying gun deaths are "worth it" (Charlie's words) getting shot? Hilarious. It's like Herman Cain opposing masks and social distancing dying from covid. Also hilarious. It's just the truth.
> May God help you find more peace and less hatred.
God doesn't exist, but if he did, he/she/they made the world a better place. Thoughts and prayers.