Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office

Re:Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office by yepitwas on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @01:29AM (#45193683)

It's pretty funny to watch e.g. some little FOSS console game system emulator—an actual toy, or at least, a project in service of a toy and of game-playing, to a large extent, but also technically more challenging than a lot of corporate work—or maybe some FOSS MMO server re-implementation coordinate development across continents with nothing but IRC, email, and Github (if that, LOL) and do it efficiently with little friction and volunteers working in their spare time and zero people with a dedicated "project manager" title, while companies pretend they need this whole fucking edifice of communication systems and people sitting in cubicles in particular places just to shuffle a few gigabytes of spreadsheet data around with Python or whatever.

Yeah. No you don't. You're, somehow, a fraction as competent and professional as some teens and 20-somethings making toys in their spare time, if you do. Definitely deserve seven-plus figure salaries for that.

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Re:Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office by oblio on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @03:48AM (#45194558)

KDE was supposed to run on Windows, starting 15 years ago. Linux was supposed to flawlessly support laptop sleep and hibernate, 20 years ago. Gimp was supposed to support 32 bit colors (I think) 15 years ago. Etc, etc.

The money is there so that things that are desired happen mostly on time.

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Re:Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office by regularfry on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @06:21AM (#45195634)

The question is who they are desired by.

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Re:Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office by oblio on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @11:26AM (#45199119)

Not by the developers, obviously.

"That's what the money is for."

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Re:Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office by cyberpunk on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @02:07AM (#45193910)

Shit I would fucking love a cubical vs the open plan wall of noise and chaos that’s our brand new office. Sigh.

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Re:Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office by lnsru on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @03:24AM (#45194374)

I feel you. Have my own office right now. Its worth more than €25k salary. It’s really hard to apply somewhere else and go back to noise and chaos in open office even for more money.

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Re:Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office by Chris2048 on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @09:28AM (#45197336)

but this is survival bias. lots of those FOSS projects go nowhere, unnoticed.

You are flipping this around: "companies pretend they need this whole fucking edifice", but they'd need to pick the winners first. those people need no management for them to do what they are motivated to do, but corporation have some people they are asking to do something they might not care much about - the same results aren't guaranteed.

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Re:Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office by snapcaster on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @10:58AM (#45198754)

Isn't the thing you're ignoring just passion? I find it a small miracle that any company accomplishes anything. it's a ground of hundreds or thousands of people, almost none of whom want to be there and don't care about the product or company, that despite this still somehow accomplish things

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