And the other half all put a giant pop-up asking me to sign into Google. I've not yet figured out how to block it, if anyone knows I would love to hear it.

> Around half of all websites use Google analytics so good luck totally avoiding Google.

Isnt adding Google Analytics to the website a decision solely and independently made by the website in question?

You said you you can browse the internet independent of Google and I’m saying you can’t because yes other people can force Google onto you

Whether a company has a business relationship with a company you dont like, doesnt make the same argument you're making.

It is like saying, I dont like Coca Cola but when I go to McDonald's to eat food, they only serve Coca Cola. Hence, Coca Cola is.. bad? McDonald's is free to chose any business partner they like, and you insisting that McDonald's shouldnt use Coca Cola sounds silly.

If you went to McDonalds and had to drink Coke just to walk in the door.

If I understand correctly, manifest v3 is like what Safari implemented a decade ago and it’s perfectly possible to block Google analytics with Safari content blockers.

Yes you can still block it’s just stripped down now eg ublock lite.

My point is that it’s incredibly difficult to avoid Google. Especially for people who aren’t nerds.

How is your argument that you can’t avoid Google supported by the argument that with manifest v3 you can’t block Google analytics even though you can?

In the US, iOS has 60% market share and installing an ad blocker is a matter of going to the App Store and installing it and then enabling in settings. They all walk you through the process. It’s the same on the Mac with the Mac App Store.

That’s not my entire argument I just started going a rabbit hole to show how tied in it all is.

Google pays Apple to be the default search engine.

Google transmits our data undersea.

You can’t easily avoid them!

And you can change your search engine. If you have evidence that someone Google has quantum computers that allows it decrypt encrypted traffic, I’m sure people would like to know.

But no one has been proposing that Google not be allowed to have underseas cables

Yeah because metadata isn’t important…

The argument is that you can cut Google out of your life. The reality is you can’t and many don’t even realize how deeply intertwined it is.

You don’t think that’s going deep down the rabbit hole to show that Google is a monopoly to say that it owns a few of the under seas pipes? How much of an American’s traffic do you think goes over Google’s pipelines?

Well apparently it’s around ¾ of the traffic.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2111.12253