Good faith is a peace treaty, not a suicide pact, or opening your wallet to a conman, who goes back on every deal he makes.
(And this conman takes your tax money, and then instead of providing you the services that he is required to - by law, witholds it for reasons of pure spite and caprise. If he won't hold up his end of what he is required to, why should anyone else lift a finger to extend any courtesies to him?)
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-atlanta-announces-resu...
Being accurate is less important than trying to get the lie out in front of as many eyeballs as possible, so the lie can be repeated in front of people who might not realize this sort of information offhand.
450 people arrested. I am skeptical of even that number. 450 working here illegally? Ok… prove it. Names and visa statuses please. The raid happened yesterday, you’re telling me they have conclusive proof 450 people are working illegally less than 24 hours later? Not remotely likely
Much more likely? 450 koreans working here legally but not carrying papers on them because american is supposed to be a free country.
The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) requires every noncitizen who is 18 years old and over to carry evidence of their immigration “registration documents” at all times.
Noncitizens refer to lawful permanent residents (green card holders) and other nonimmigrants in the U.S., including but not limited to foreign students, exchange visitors, and foreign workers. “Registration documents” effectively refer to valid immigration documents.
Also, detained != deported. If you have been stopped by a police officer for a traffic ticket and couldn't leave at will, you were being detained too.
Hyperbole isn't helpful.
We spent the entire Cold War criticizing “papers, please” culture so at the very least seems like we should recognize this as a major change and do something old-fashioned like passing a law to make it legal. The free countries like France or Spain which have similar requirements have actual legal authorization making the terms clear.
The people detained were suspected of being here illegally and weren't citizens. Being detained is not the same as being deported, and is simply holding until more information is known. The INA was created before the cold war and only applies to non-citizens, which is a milder policy than a lot of developed countries. Plus, while I'm not inclined to believe everything the government says, immediately rejecting government data because it violates your desired world view is childish, especially when there's no reason to doubt it.
https://internationalservices.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs64...
> immediately rejecting government data because it violates your desired world view is childish, especially when there's no reason to doubt it.
You appear to have confused me with someone else. That said, given both the highly politicized climate and the many recent examples of claims being dropped or falling apart in court, I think it’s prudent to only trust things defended in a court of law. It’s certainly plausible that there was a tip about immigration fraud which meant that they had clear cause for stopping people but it also wouldn’t be surprising if people under intense pressure to hit quotas made some bad calls. I’m sure that many of the numbers they report are valid - large chunks of the economy depend on foreign labor - but expect the final numbers will be substantially lower.
The people detained included US Citizens who weren't carrying documentation of their citizenship.
> "...The judicial warrant for the search at the Hyundai plant named just four people. Relying on that warrant, ICE detained nearly 500 people. DHS admitted that included U.S. citizens, permanent residents, and people lawfully here on visas.'"
https://bsky.app/profile/maxkennerly.bsky.social/post/3lydsb...
It's an absurd law for basic reasons: if US citizens are not required to carry proof of citizenship, and non-citizens are, then the law either is totally pointless and unenforceable; or (in this case) trigger-happy police unlawfully detain US citizens on suspicion. It's a Catch-22: a US citizen is not obligated to carry *the papers proving they're not obligated to carry papers*.
In 2025, people go from one to the other without ever getting a chance to legally contest it.
Hell, they go from one to the other when they win the legal contest.
There's no need to play Devil's advocate for this.
People are being ARRESTED wrongly and without due process or consequences for the mistake - not just detained.
Carrying water for the lawless kleptocracy isn’t a good look.
Looks like they did have legal visas
I am not an immigration judge or a prophet, so I don't know how every case will turn out, but 450 is a lot. It's enough that even if some are here legally, as would be expected since people are detained for reasonable suspicion not proof, it would still be hundreds of illegal immigrants.
Most of the immigrants are not from South Korea, they're from central/south america. My understanding of the situation so far is that some South Koreans came here to manage the project, some on questionable visas themselves, and they hired hundreds of laborers (illegally). If you want to build a factory in the US you should follow the laws we have, you can't pick and choose which laws to follow.
Some examples: https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-grants-president-don...
And no, not following you - just replying to all the comments that blindly believe a state media outlet from a gov run by kleptocrats.
"Trust the experts!"
>Much more likely? 450 koreans working here legally but not carrying papers on them because american is supposed to be a free country.
The facts will inevitably be: hundreds Korean nationals were illegally working in the US. The correction will be a small blurb somewhere, posted months from now, after the next fake new outrage comes about.
Trust the experts only makes sense if you’re talking about something where experts exist, and are speaking.
ICE et all is a goon squad, and most of their employees have only a high school diploma and a few months experience driving around in white vans disappearing seniors. If i need that done, i know who to trust. If i need the truth? They are not experts in the truth.
But ok, let’s say we believe them. By their own stats, 30% of the people they arrest are let go without charges or deportation. So by their own accounting, 450 arrests will be 315 deportation/incarcerations, and 135 people treated like cattle for having the wrong skin color or an accent. And given the complete lack of due process why on earth should we even believe them about the 315?