Also, detained != deported. If you have been stopped by a police officer for a traffic ticket and couldn't leave at will, you were being detained too.
Hyperbole isn't helpful.
We spent the entire Cold War criticizing “papers, please” culture so at the very least seems like we should recognize this as a major change and do something old-fashioned like passing a law to make it legal. The free countries like France or Spain which have similar requirements have actual legal authorization making the terms clear.
The people detained were suspected of being here illegally and weren't citizens. Being detained is not the same as being deported, and is simply holding until more information is known. The INA was created before the cold war and only applies to non-citizens, which is a milder policy than a lot of developed countries. Plus, while I'm not inclined to believe everything the government says, immediately rejecting government data because it violates your desired world view is childish, especially when there's no reason to doubt it.
https://internationalservices.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs64...
> immediately rejecting government data because it violates your desired world view is childish, especially when there's no reason to doubt it.
You appear to have confused me with someone else. That said, given both the highly politicized climate and the many recent examples of claims being dropped or falling apart in court, I think it’s prudent to only trust things defended in a court of law. It’s certainly plausible that there was a tip about immigration fraud which meant that they had clear cause for stopping people but it also wouldn’t be surprising if people under intense pressure to hit quotas made some bad calls. I’m sure that many of the numbers they report are valid - large chunks of the economy depend on foreign labor - but expect the final numbers will be substantially lower.
The people detained included US Citizens who weren't carrying documentation of their citizenship.
> "...The judicial warrant for the search at the Hyundai plant named just four people. Relying on that warrant, ICE detained nearly 500 people. DHS admitted that included U.S. citizens, permanent residents, and people lawfully here on visas.'"
https://bsky.app/profile/maxkennerly.bsky.social/post/3lydsb...
It's an absurd law for basic reasons: if US citizens are not required to carry proof of citizenship, and non-citizens are, then the law either is totally pointless and unenforceable; or (in this case) trigger-happy police unlawfully detain US citizens on suspicion. It's a Catch-22: a US citizen is not obligated to carry *the papers proving they're not obligated to carry papers*.
In 2025, people go from one to the other without ever getting a chance to legally contest it.
Hell, they go from one to the other when they win the legal contest.
There's no need to play Devil's advocate for this.
People are being ARRESTED wrongly and without due process or consequences for the mistake - not just detained.
Carrying water for the lawless kleptocracy isn’t a good look.
Looks like they did have legal visas
The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) requires every noncitizen who is 18 years old and over to carry evidence of their immigration “registration documents” at all times.
Noncitizens refer to lawful permanent residents (green card holders) and other nonimmigrants in the U.S., including but not limited to foreign students, exchange visitors, and foreign workers. “Registration documents” effectively refer to valid immigration documents.