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Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by xiphias2 on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @02:23AM (#45036050)
Too bad it was not Apple who hired her for M4, but in business leaders are always the most closed ones.
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by ta988 on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @02:50AM (#45036236)
Apple is too much about beeing closed and creating barriers not sure that would have been a good fit. Plus that's a good way to flee a country quickly degrading.
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by homebrewer on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @04:30AM (#45036897)
Thanks Jesus it's Intel and not Apple, Intel has been extremely good at working upstream and has immense contributions in the Linux kernel, mesa, and elsewhere. Wasting such talent on Apple would make the world worse for us all.
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by MangoToupe on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @09:02AM (#45039080)
I don't see a future for intel, frankly, but I'm very happy she found a good paying job.
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by tlamponi on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @11:00AM (#45040650)
There was a time when people said that about AMD.

Don't get me wrong, Intel's outlook is IMO currently indeed rather bleak, but I would not completely write it off just yet.

Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by CharlesW on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @11:08AM (#45040776)
> There was a time when people said that about AMD.

And Apple, to complete the circle.

Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by MangoToupe on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @07:48PM (#45046690)
AMD is equally fucked. Building off of IP-locked architectures is just a graveyard. Even apple will hit a wall one day.
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by Incipient on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @11:55PM (#45048213)
There are a myriad of companies that have thrived in "IP locked" environments, a host that have failed too. Equally there are heaps that have thrived and failed in "IP open" environments.

I think at best you could say it's more challenging or perhaps risky being a bit restricted with IP, but I'd call it miles away from a "graveyard".

You can hardly call Intel/amd/qualcomm etc all struggling due to the architectures being locked down.

Look at powerpc/Isa. It's (entirely?) open and hasn't really done any better than x86.

Fundamentally you're going to be tied to backwards compatibility to some extent. You're limited to evolution, not revolution. And I don't think x86 had failed to evolve? (eg avx10 is very new)

Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by koakuma-chan on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @11:04AM (#45040721)
Why? Apple makes good products. It seems, unlike Intel.
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by dylan604 on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @12:10PM (#45041580)
Apple hiring her would essentially prevent her from doing it again on other models keeping the moat intact
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by kccqzy on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @11:31AM (#45041085)
Apple doesn't have any contributions to the Linux kernel or other parts of the Linux graphics stack. They are unlikely to hire someone who wants to work on open source.
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by jajuuka on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @04:19PM (#45044652)
To be fair they don't have anything to do with Linux so there is nothing to contribute back towards. They use BSD licensed software for a reason.

Apple does have open source projects. https://opensource.apple.com But the scope is rather limited. For someone of Alyssa's skillset there really isn't anything there.

Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by MangoToupe on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @07:50PM (#45046696)
Sure but linux isn't necessary. Legacy software can be virtualized
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by jandrese on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @11:31AM (#45041077)
Apple doesn’t contribute back to the community.
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by qingcharles on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @03:04PM (#45043664)
Intel seem to be pretty good in the .Net framework too, pushing a bunch of performance upgrades.
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by porphyra on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @05:28AM (#45037250)
Honestly if Apple had embraced Linux, the Apple Silicon CPUs would have been amazing for all sorts of server, scientific, and AI/LLM work. Too bad they are clamping down on the walled garden to focus on consumer toys instead.
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by zozbot234 on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @05:35AM (#45037300)
> Honestly if Apple had embraced Linux, the Apple Silicon CPUs would have been amazing for all sorts of server, scientific, and AI/LLM work.

You can already do this work on M1/M2 using Asahi. A compute server doesn't need fully working peripherals and external displays.

Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by porphyra on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @05:41AM (#45037346)
I do have an M2 Macbook running Asahi, which works amazingly well for my casual use, but I think that there is no way that anyone will use last last gen hardware on a volunteer-developed OS for any actual work, server use cases, and so on.
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by solardev on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @08:52AM (#45038972)
How would GPGPU work in such a scenario?
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by zozbot234 on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @09:30AM (#45039413)
The M1/M2 GPU is supported via Vulkan Compute. (Or OpenCL/SYCL, going through rusticl.)
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by solardev on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @10:10AM (#45039990)
Thank you!
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by MangoToupe on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @09:03AM (#45039090)
Really a matter of perspective, tbh. Linux is also quite toy-like in its mess.
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by benoau on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @10:45AM (#45040451)
The real shame is the longevity, M1 Pro and M1 Max got discontinued two and a half years ago so they're on their way to the vintage list and could be entirely obsoleted by the end of this decade! Linux support is the only thing that will keep these machines usable after that.
Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by mckenzba on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @11:15AM (#45040868)
From what I recall, Apple forbids its employees from participating in open source work it doesn't approve of. And given Apple's culture of secrecy, its agenda of maintaining a walled garden with their products, and her work basically contradicting the two, I doubt her being hired by Apple would benefit anyone other than Apple.