Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end

Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by homebrewer on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @04:30AM (#45036897)

Thanks Jesus it's Intel and not Apple, Intel has been extremely good at working upstream and has immense contributions in the Linux kernel, mesa, and elsewhere. Wasting such talent on Apple would make the world worse for us all.

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Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by MangoToupe on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @09:02AM (#45039080)

I don't see a future for intel, frankly, but I'm very happy she found a good paying job.

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Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by tlamponi on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @11:00AM (#45040650)

There was a time when people said that about AMD.

Don't get me wrong, Intel's outlook is IMO currently indeed rather bleak, but I would not completely write it off just yet.

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Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by CharlesW on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @11:08AM (#45040776)

> There was a time when people said that about AMD.

And Apple, to complete the circle.

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Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by MangoToupe on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @07:48PM (#45046690)

AMD is equally fucked. Building off of IP-locked architectures is just a graveyard. Even apple will hit a wall one day.

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Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by Incipient on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @11:55PM (#45048213)

There are a myriad of companies that have thrived in "IP locked" environments, a host that have failed too. Equally there are heaps that have thrived and failed in "IP open" environments.

I think at best you could say it's more challenging or perhaps risky being a bit restricted with IP, but I'd call it miles away from a "graveyard".

You can hardly call Intel/amd/qualcomm etc all struggling due to the architectures being locked down.

Look at powerpc/Isa. It's (entirely?) open and hasn't really done any better than x86.

Fundamentally you're going to be tied to backwards compatibility to some extent. You're limited to evolution, not revolution. And I don't think x86 had failed to evolve? (eg avx10 is very new)

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Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by koakuma-chan on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @11:04AM (#45040721)

Why? Apple makes good products. It seems, unlike Intel.

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Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by dylan604 on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @12:10PM (#45041580)

Apple hiring her would essentially prevent her from doing it again on other models keeping the moat intact

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Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by kccqzy on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @11:31AM (#45041085)

Apple doesn't have any contributions to the Linux kernel or other parts of the Linux graphics stack. They are unlikely to hire someone who wants to work on open source.

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Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by jajuuka on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @04:19PM (#45044652)

To be fair they don't have anything to do with Linux so there is nothing to contribute back towards. They use BSD licensed software for a reason.

Apple does have open source projects. https://opensource.apple.com But the scope is rather limited. For someone of Alyssa's skillset there really isn't anything there.

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Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by MangoToupe on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @07:50PM (#45046696)

Sure but linux isn't necessary. Legacy software can be virtualized

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Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by jandrese on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @11:31AM (#45041077)

Apple doesn’t contribute back to the community.

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Re:Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end by qingcharles on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @03:04PM (#45043664)

Intel seem to be pretty good in the .Net framework too, pushing a bunch of performance upgrades.

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