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Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by carschno on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @04:25AM (#44959881)
> I am having a really hard time communicating this problem to executives

When you hit such a wall, you might not be failing to communicate, nor them failing to understand. In reality, said executives have probably chosen to ignore the issue, but also don't want to take accountability for the eventual leaks. So "not understanding" is the easiest way to blame the engineers later.

Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by lupusreal on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @04:56AM (#44960043)
It doesn't even need to be blaming the engineers in this case, they can blame "the AI" and most people will accept that and let whatever incident happened slide. If somebody questions the wisdom of putting AI in such a position, they can be dismissed as not appreciating new technology (even though their concern is valid.)
Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by jeltz on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @07:10AM (#44960763)
Yeah, it is usually not about blaming the engineers in my experience. It is about so they can make a descion they want to make without having to think too hard or take any accountability. If nobody knew at the time it was bad everyone can just act surprised and call it an accident and just go on with their lives making similar uninformed descisions.

In their dream world the engineers would not know about it either.

Edit: Maybe we should call this style vibe management. :D

Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by Lu2025 on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @09:36AM (#44961842)
Yep. AI is wonderful for IP laundering and accountability laundering (is this even a term? It is now!)
Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by flir on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @09:44AM (#44961893)
"the AI did it" is going to be the new "somebody hacked my facebook account"

I wish I had a way of ensuring culpability remains with the human who published the text, regardless of who/what authored it.

Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by tough on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @12:02PM (#44963145)
if you're in a regulated field like law or medicine and you fuck up signing some AI slop with your name, you should loose your license at the very least

tools are fine to use, personal responsability is still required. Companies already fuck up with this too much

Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by flir on Thursday August 21, 2025 @05:41AM (#44970813)
I think it needs to be a cultural expectation. I don't know how we get there, though.
Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by admissionsguy on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @10:21AM (#44962252)
worse, they can be dismissed as an abstract ”ai is dangerous” and used to justify funnelling money to the various ai safety charlatans
Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by p3rls on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @07:23AM (#44960831)
In this case it looks like the executives should fire the OP and hire the 2nd poster who came up with a solution. C'mon lazy executives.