Re:Scientific fraud has become an 'industry,' alarming analy...
by dfxm12 on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @09:14AM
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According to the article, bad papers are getting criticized and retracted. It appears "science" is robust enough to work as intended, even with some bad actors involved.
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Re:Scientific fraud has become an 'industry,' alarming analy...
by bdisl on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @09:16AM
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All of them? That worked well for Alzheimer research, didn’t it
Re:Scientific fraud has become an 'industry,' alarming analy...
by thinkingtoilet on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @09:28AM
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Obviously not all of them. And obviously there is corruption and mistakes with anything involving humans. What's so funny is that when people make criticisms like this, they always leave out the alternative. What's the alternative? Trusting mostly uneducated influencers and quacks who do even less research and don't even attempt peer review?
Re:Scientific fraud has become an 'industry,' alarming analy...
by bdisl on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @09:32AM
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The alternative is not trusting the science or the quacks.
Re:Scientific fraud has become an 'industry,' alarming analy...
by blackbear_ on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @10:08AM
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Most people cannot tell those apart...
Re:Scientific fraud has become an 'industry,' alarming analy...
by bdisl on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @10:12AM
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And those who are not supposed to be quacks will commit fraud anyway. Which is why you shouldn’t trust anyone.
Re:Scientific fraud has become an 'industry,' alarming analy...
by pixl97 on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @11:01AM
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Good idea, trust no one, get nothing.
Why not move back into a cave and stab your own meat with a sharpened stick next.
Re:Scientific fraud has become an 'industry,' alarming analy...
by GLdRH on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @11:35PM
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At least we wouldn't have Alzheimer
Re:Scientific fraud has become an 'industry,' alarming analy...
by thinkingtoilet on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @02:14PM
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I'm sure if, god forbid, you were diagnosed with a curable cancer you wouldn't go "trust the science" and go get treatment. I'm really sure you would do that.
Re:Scientific fraud has become an 'industry,' alarming analy...
by searine on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:26PM
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Except it did? Fraud was identified. Science moved forward. Literally working as intended.
Re:Scientific fraud has become an 'industry,' alarming analy...
by teddyh on Wednesday August 06, 2025 @07:07AM
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You can say that of all cases of fraud, but that’s a survivorship bias fallacy, since we can only talk about cases we know to be fradulent, i.e. where fraud has been identified.
Re:Scientific fraud has become an 'industry,' alarming analy...
by missedthecue on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @04:08PM
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There is evidence to suggest that corrections and retractions do not even effect citations.
Re:Scientific fraud has become an 'industry,' alarming analy...
by deepsquirrelnet on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @10:10PM
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What practical solution would you offer to this problem? Without changing the entire publishing software ecosystem, it’s not like articles are living in github repositories where pull requests are a thing.
In many cases, citing articles still go to print media.