News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by xiconfjs on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:29AM (#44794605)
It‘s still a bit flaky getting video acceleration (not talking about object detection but video decoding) working but after that it is one of the best solutions for live object detection I‘ve ever tried: no more small animals waking me up in the night.

P.S.: I‘m also supporting them with a yearly? subsciption to train the „A.I.“ model against false positives I provide which increased the accuracy even more.

Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by zeroflow on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @04:07AM (#44795477)
That "subscription" is one which I gladly pay due to multiple reasons:

1. It supports the developers(s) 2. The price can be directly attributed to cost for training 3. You can keep the models you trained during your subscription indefinately

That's pretty much the opposite to AgentDVR. I don't need hosted services for remote access or push notifications - I can do that myself. But if I want to abide the license terms, I need to purchase a monthly subscription for remote access over my own VPN.

Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by m463 on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:34AM (#44794630)
> no more small animals waking me up in the night.

not waking you, but it is cool to have a collection of animal photos. Sort of amazing there's a hidden world.

Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by danparsonson on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:43AM (#44794679)
Hedgehogs are fantastic TV - a member of my family used to get some great footage including one very memorable fight where one ended up rolling the other one around
Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by wiseowise on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @03:49AM (#44795376)
> including one very memorable fight where one ended up rolling the other one around

You can’t drop something like that without uploading it to YouTube right now.

Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by danparsonson on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @04:24AM (#44795600)
Very sorry to say I don't have access to it! If I ever get hold of a copy you'll be the first to know
Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by xiconfjs on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:42AM (#44794673)
For sure, but rats and moths are usually not that cool ^^
Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by morkalork on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @09:57AM (#44798045)
Some nights my cat goes absolutely ballistic running from window to window to door, meowing and scratching to get out. And inevitably if I open my camera and look I'll see something like a family of racoons walking by or a skunk in the yard. It's a little consolation that he's just hearing other animals and isn't possessed by demons at 2am.
Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by nijave on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @04:45PM (#44804026)
Yeah didn't realize raccoons wandered in families until I saw a line of 5 of them wander by nightly with Frigate
Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by pugworthy on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @12:24PM (#44800123)
My Wyze cameras love to report "pets" - which have been deer, foxes, raccoons, opossums, and yes occasionally a cat or dog.
Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by nijave on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @04:44PM (#44804018)
You can do both. You can set it to detect animals but turn off reviews. The reviews act like alerts you can "view" whereas the detection as more like metadata you can use on the search page
Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by sugarpimpdorsey on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @02:47AM (#44795001)
This is becoming a real problem because the drivers/software for the Coral AI boards is yet another example of Google Abandonware(tm) which has a hard dependency on a Paleolithic-era version of Python. Comically, the hardware is still sold.

In so many words if you expect to use the Coral boards you are stuck on EOL versions of Debian/Ubuntu - which have terribly old video drivers and missing kernel GPU support. There's a good chance your modern GPU - even well-supported Intel ones - won't work.

Imagine buying new hardware in 2025 whose software still required Windows 7.

Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by Cyph0n on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @03:05AM (#44795103)
Re: outdated Python: Isn’t this a perfect usecase for Docker? Nix/NixOS is another option.
Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by smokel on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @03:22AM (#44795219)
No. You might get it to run, but you would also get old security exploits to run.
Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by Cyph0n on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @03:49AM (#44795378)
Yes, it is, because then you aren’t stuck with a EOL distribution where you get even more security issues to deal with (vs. just EOL Python).

Also, what kind of “security exploits” would an outdated Python result in if the Python interpreter itself isn’t serving a network port or accepting arbitrary user input in general?

I assume Frigate itself isn’t running the web app on the same Python version - it’s likely just the Coral SDK that requires an outdated Python version.

Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by dns_snek on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @03:54AM (#44795407)
It's fine, you're not running a network-accessible part of the service on unpatched software. The only input this part of the software requires is trusted configuration data and a video feed which could hypothetically be malicious, but then the question becomes why you're running an adversarial camera on your network, and why you're allowing it to connect to the internet to fetch latest exploits and C&C instructions.

You can also transcode the video before feeding it to any outdated software and run it in a VM if you're paranoid.

Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by nijave on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @04:47PM (#44804050)
Never underestimate the power of a specially crafted raccoon whose appearance can trigger a buffer overrun
Re:Monitor your security cameras with locally processed AI by alias_neo on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @02:01AM (#44794764)
Mines been getting worse.

Been running about 2-3 years, was mostly fine before but now I get constant false positives from the children's garden toys, scooter left in the garden, pirate flag waving etc.

I don't submit false positives for privacy reasons but I'm looking at trainingy own model. I've got years worth of positives/negatives to train on.