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Re:Beyond Meat Fights for Survival by hellcow on Sunday July 20, 2025 @10:54AM (#44625746)
> 'we can do it and it may get more people to eat vegetarian.'

That's a noble goal in and of itself. Every step to reduce environmental impact and animal cruelty has value.

Beyond and Impossible were my "off-ramp" from eating meat every meal to exploring vegetarianism and veganism. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Re:Beyond Meat Fights for Survival by graublau on Sunday July 20, 2025 @11:15AM (#44625956)
You needed a product to help you do that? Were vegetables themselves unappealing?
Re:Beyond Meat Fights for Survival by xeromal on Sunday July 20, 2025 @12:02PM (#44626483)
Vegetables as a meat substitute were. I don't think it's wise to pretend meat unto itself is not appealing to many humans because it's different from vegetables, grains, and fruits.
Re:Beyond Meat Fights for Survival by itsoktocry on Sunday July 20, 2025 @10:59AM (#44625800)
If you're going to eat vegetarian, eat vegetarian. There are lots of foods out there.

The idea that normal, healthy people are going to eat ultra processed vegetarian slop so they can pretend they are eating meat was never going to work.

Re:Beyond Meat Fights for Survival by lanfeust6 on Sunday July 20, 2025 @11:43AM (#44626283)
Burgers were never considered a "health" item so replacement with slop qua occasional treat is not q crazy concept. As another user has whined about, burger restaurants almost always offer some variant of it, and grocery chains carry it. Beyond Meat has competition now, cheaper too
Re:Beyond Meat Fights for Survival by santoshalper on Sunday July 20, 2025 @12:46PM (#44626901)
Well, they do have $330M in revenue and the product is all over the place, so I'm not sure your hypothesis is correct. Many people simply don't share your view "if you're going to eat vegetarian, eat vegetarian". I think the biggest problem is that they have not been able to get cost under control.
Re:Beyond Meat Fights for Survival by throwpoaster on Sunday July 20, 2025 @01:36PM (#44627386)
Animal agriculture converts scrub land into carbon sinks that produce food.
Re:Beyond Meat Fights for Survival by PaulHoule on Sunday July 20, 2025 @03:28PM (#44628499)
It can. In permaculture models where you are not supplying a lot of inputs and able to cycle 100% of the manure back on grass it's great. In 20 years of running a horse farm the quality of our pasture and hay has been steadily getting better because we've been building soil.

Apply huge amounts of nitrogen fertilizer to grow corn, badly contaminating the Mississippi river and creating a dead spot in the Gulf of Mexico, feeding animals in CAFO where discarding of the manure is a problem and that's something different.

Real life systems are a little more complex than that as a cow might be grown up on scrub land and then fattened up at a CAFO for the last few months. Who knows what the long term fate of land that is cleared in the Amazon rain forest is.

Re:Beyond Meat Fights for Survival by bluebarbet on Sunday July 20, 2025 @04:38PM (#44629096)
This is a regionally-contingent oversimplification that obscures the much more essential fact that animal agriculture always requires substantially more land than arable agriculture to produce the same amount of food. Land is very much a finite resource and I personally would prefer to see a bit more of it left to nature (or "scrub", as you call it).
Re:Beyond Meat Fights for Survival by throwpoaster on Sunday July 20, 2025 @07:23PM (#44630341)
This presupposes a collectivist agricultural policy, no? Some people just own scrub. They don’t have the arable land you rightly suggest is more efficient at growing the same amount of food.

Most land is scrub. You can like leaving more of it that way, but no one else will notice in percentage terms.

Re:Beyond Meat Fights for Survival by seec on Tuesday July 22, 2025 @01:55AM (#44643619)
You are the one making an oversimplification.

The type of food you get from animal agriculture is nowhere near the same thing as what you get from large scale plant agriculture.

On top of that, what you harvest from plant agriculture needs enormous amounts of processing and requires a whole lot of modern machinery and a very complex supply chain. And at the end of it the nutritional profile of your output is not at all the same, you can get closer by adding even more processing, that requires even more supply chain wizardry, more energy and more secondary input but suddenly you are not really more efficient than the animal farm; how shocking...

Re:Beyond Meat Fights for Survival by piyushpr134 on Sunday July 20, 2025 @02:40PM (#44628028)
Indian here. We can eat vegetarian without this processed crap. Happy to see this die. We had equivalent companies here in India too. And they also are struggling. Happy to see this being rejected by masses
Re:Beyond Meat Fights for Survival by IAmBroom on Monday July 21, 2025 @10:09AM (#44635308)
That's a lot of vitriol against a firm that doesn't promote animal cruelty, nor encourage people to avoid less-processed crap.

They are a for-profit vegetarian company in a capitalist market, not Nestle's trying to sell African mothers on powdered formula.