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Re:I'm a Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It by DaveZale on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @08:58PM (#44577631)
please explain.

Gaza has been destroyed. So which country do you refer to? The whole of Israel was formerly Palestine.

And the nyt article infers that the creation of Israel was a reaction to a previous genocide. That is false. It was plotted since the 19th century.

Re:I'm a Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It by tguvot on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @09:15PM (#44577731)
Could you please show me maps of this formerly Palestine (state?) ? Because I don't remember one
Re:I'm a Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It by DaveZale on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @09:34PM (#44577828)
never forget!

Isn't that the rallying cry?

You know how to search. Find the map. Know the history.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/12s6lq5/this_map_o... from Natgeo

Israeli soldiers are killing not only others but themselves. We have to know the truth, otherwise we're all just lost at sea without a compass, or even a map.

Re:I'm a Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It by tguvot on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @09:45PM (#44577883)
first comment on your link: What's important to remember is that at this point (as in prior to 1948) both Jews and Arabs were referred to as Palestinians since it was the common name for the region

besides this i am not sure what exactly this map supposed to show. 30 years before that this area was called "province syria palestina" and was part of ottoman empire for hundreds of years

Re:I'm a Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It by nick_ on Wednesday July 16, 2025 @12:11AM (#44578590)
Quick question: what are Arabs who live in Israel called?
Re:I'm a Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It by tguvot on Wednesday July 16, 2025 @12:21AM (#44578641)
i recently read paper on their self identification. Rather recent. iirc split is something like:

- Israeli Arabs : 30%-40%

- Palestinian Arabs: 30%-40%

- Palestinians: 10%-15%

- Christian Arabs: 5%-10%

- Etc : 5%

Guy that I spent two years with in same room was self identifying as "Arab, Orthodox Christian, Communist".

Those who live in west bank have more permutations of identities, with some of them mostly identifying with their clan or religion

Re:I'm a Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It by linehedonist on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @09:35PM (#44577836)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine

Surely this question was not asked in earnest. You’ll say that this colonial possession was not a “state,” as though it had a different status than the other mandates and British colonies that turned into states during the 20th century.

Re:I'm a Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It by dlubarov on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @10:31PM (#44578114)
"The whole of Israel was formerly Palestine" was rather ambiguous. If the poster meant "The whole of Israel was formerly Mandatory Palestine", then okay that's accurate, but it seemed like the idea was to draw a connection to what we now call the Palestinian people or the State of Palestine. Mandatory Palestine was a very different entity which governed a more diverse group of people.
Re:I'm a Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It by tguvot on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @09:42PM (#44577871)
it was as earnest as statement that all of it "formerly Palestine". it was mandatory area that included also transjordan.
Re:I'm a Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It by like_any_other on Wednesday July 16, 2025 @05:58PM (#44587244)
I'm referring to the right itself, separate from any country or nation.