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Re:Sleeping beauty Bitcoin wallets wake up after 14 years to... by LikesPwsh on Saturday July 05, 2025 @04:58AM (#44471214)
In the long term everything goes to zero, so an asset that pays no dividends but has significant storage costs isn't much good for investment.

Bitcoin holders as a group are constantly losing money by definition. Some of them cash out at a profit, I suppose.

Re:Sleeping beauty Bitcoin wallets wake up after 14 years to... by FabHK on Saturday July 05, 2025 @07:40AM (#44472039)
> Bitcoin holders as a group are constantly losing money by definition

Modulo market cap representing unrealized PnL, but yes otherwise. Miners and exchanges take a good cut.

Re:Sleeping beauty Bitcoin wallets wake up after 14 years to... by LikesPwsh on Sunday July 06, 2025 @07:53AM (#44479929)
Yeah the paper gains are nice, but they all net to zero in real money.
Re:Sleeping beauty Bitcoin wallets wake up after 14 years to... by hx8 on Saturday July 05, 2025 @12:35PM (#44473846)
I'm trying to figure out what the significant storage costs for bitcoin are. It's a bit higher than a Robin Hood stock because it costs fees when buying/selling, but it's significantly lower than gold/silver which really require some investment in physical security or a vaulting service.
Re:Sleeping beauty Bitcoin wallets wake up after 14 years to... by LikesPwsh on Sunday July 06, 2025 @08:09AM (#44480043)
Mining and theft mostly.
Re:Sleeping beauty Bitcoin wallets wake up after 14 years to... by ahazred8ta on Saturday July 05, 2025 @02:01PM (#44474403)
It's the miners who are hemorrhaging hard currency. It's currently costing $8-10 billion per year to keep the BTC blockchain alive, but blockchain fees are paid when transacting, not when HODLing, so it's not a storage cost.
Re:Sleeping beauty Bitcoin wallets wake up after 14 years to... by LikesPwsh on Sunday July 06, 2025 @07:56AM (#44479943)
Miners get paid in BTC but have costs in money.

They have to sell, so the money is coming from buyers and impacts holders via reduced demand.